Pentastar + RIPP SuperCharger = SUPERSTAR?

[JeepLab]

This is one of my favorite threads. Worked on it for a year. Started it in March of 2013

Yep Its Done.

Only 2 others in existance. Both auto. Ripp's and Rockstar's.

The only 6-Spd RIPP SuperCharged Pentastar JK in the world is in my garage.

I want to thank Ross and the guys from RIPP for all the work. I hung out with them for a few hours, they are all very cool. Same vibe i got at Rock Krawler with Justin and the boys up in NY state. Knowledgable jeep guys, who dont mind explaining the stuff that I didn't understand going in. Im not a mechanic, so sometimes my questions might sound silly, but these guys were happy to explain in detail, not bothered by my entry level understanding of superchargers.

Here are the stats on Black Betty.

12 JKUR
315 Duratracs
2.5 X-Factor Rock Krawler Lift
6 Spd
4.10 Gears.
No Exhaust Mods at this time.

Drove it for the first time today. It is very fast. The boys at ripp installed it, so im going to get more involved explaining the installation later. Suffices to say, the install was done in one day, then the dyno passes began. I'll post the before and after dyno numbers as soon as I dig up the pictures.

Here is the short version so far. Ross from RIPP is pulling my truck off the dyno for a test drive, motions to me to get in. I'm freaking out with delight, as I had tried to stay out of his way for the last hour while he was dialing it in on the dyno. I jump into the passenger seat, ready to fire 1000 questions.

The first question that comes out regarding the prototype supercharger set up. "So do I have to be careful with this thing?" I asked. Ross looks at me with a smirk, and then turns down a deserted alley, "watch this" then floors it. I can hear the WHHIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRR of the SuperCharger spinning. I was knocked back into my seat. He chirped the tires, with a hard shift into second, then to my amazement, CHIRPED THEM AGAIN going into 3rd!

He was showing me that the "Prototype" that I had was not delicate or fragile. He explained that the dyno runs he had been doing for the last 2 days were harder on the system than anything I was going to do to it on the road.

I drove it home on the NJ turnpike where I could open it up, but didnt get too aggressive with it. Ill give you guys my thoughts after I drive it cold tomorrow.

Overall im impressed so far. but ive only driven it a short distance and really haven't gotten on it.....Yet.

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[JeepLab]

also, im copyrighting the term "SuperStar" for this engine configuration.

lol

Heres a vid from RIPP with their 12 JKUR on the dyno. You can see Black Betty peeking in the window in the background.


http://youtu.be/VOFwGsFDRlM

[JeepLab]

Ok, Here is a pic of the screen, but the "Tune" isnt done. What I mean by that is that I have numbers, but they are conservative prototype numbers.

This is not the finished product you'd get from Ripp, but i couldnt keep my mouth shut after driving it. Had to share it with the family!

This is all going on with EJS approching, so we were under serious time constraints. I got the truck to RIPP last Monday evening, so they had less than 8 days to install and alpha test the system in the Manual Trans Pentastar, before I had to leave for moab.

So Ross(RIPP) gets his hands on the truck at 5, throws it on the dyno because im pestering him about how i want to show the before and after, etc. He did a "Running Pass" and we got -

BEFORE
215 HP
190 TQ

Yesterday, Before he took me on that test drive after install and a ton of dyno passes -

AFTER - BETA TESTING NUMBERS 1.0 BETA NOT FINAL TUNE
312HP consistantly
270 to 280 TQ

Now, let me remind you, this is halfway through the tune, These are conservative numbers. I have to bring it back on monday so he can finish dialing it in. I insisted on taking it for the weekend because we have a bumper to install, and im only half done with those lights you see.

RIPP hopes for more power than this when we're done.

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[JeepLab]

The supercharger is a Vortech

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[JeepLab]

Here are my before dynojet numbers. SAE, im around 205 whp

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[JeepLab]

Here are my feelings about it, not official word from RIPP-

Im not sure if my perception is unique or not, or if the 3.8 is different from the 3.6 in this respect, but I feel like they talk about superchargers as being bolt on and easy to go back to stock. What that means is that you can install this system easily. And for the amount of power vs time to install its VERY EASY. We took longer to install the lift. But the going back to stock isnt so clear. You can change the belt and the truck will drive like stock. Thats true and easy and quick.

But thinking your going to just unbolt the supercharger to bring your truck to the dealer for a problem wouldn't be so easy. This thing is really shoehorned in, and there are places where you need to trim a little to fit the pipes through to the intercooler and the hoses in and out of the supercharger are modded. Also the coolant bottle is replaced.

So if you were to take it out, there would still be evidence that it was there if a mechanic smelled a rat and investigated the engine bay.

At the same time, I researched the hell out of the 3.8 Gen II supercharger kit for complaints and only found one guy with AUTO transmission problems out of over 2200 kits on the road. Ross(RIPP) got his start over a decade ago, when he was working on a mod for a client and installed an after market supercharger (obviously not a RIPP) and wasn't happy with the quality of the product. He is a fanatic about driveability and durability over power.

My truck could make 360 horsepower with this same system calibrated differently, but would drive like crap. The plan is to use the supercharger to mimic a larger displacement engine, not click on like a turbo. Thats why RIPP and diablo have to do 800(kidding, but not really) dyno passes to make it the way they want it.

This is a whole new ball game with new engine, but I couldn't resist the power. Driving it now, I wouldn't give it back and i don't think I'd be able to live without one in the future. Also remember, Im a psychopath about my truck. I wrapped every inch of it in xpel ultimate healing wrap because I never wanted to see a swirlmark in it. I dont accept "its a jeep", F THAT. I expect it to be perfect. Not a scratch not a blemish anywhere, and I wheel hard. I wouldn't have handed my baby over if i hadnt done the reasearch and trusted the people I gave it to. ESPECIALLY FOR BETA TESTING.

That being said, I have no idea about warranty concerns with it. I have the extended warranty on my truck, and unless its clearly a supercharger induced problem, which im not expecting even with an untested prototype, Id bring it to the dealer as is.

[JeepLab]

I'm driving right now just pulled over to update you guys.

The power is there early in the RPM, and it builds power steeply as the RPMs climb.

It's clearly meaner than stock up to 3k RPM, then all out ferocious anywhere above that.

I have a grin from ear to ear as I press the gas.

[JeepLab]

I got the truck back after a final tune on tuesday. So its not like ive had it every day since this thread started. Today was the first chance I got to test it out after Ripp took my info from the weekend and tuned it further.

First the all out power is obvious. Far more obvious than any mod Ive done before. You want power? its always waiting. Begging me to press the pedal. Couple of open car lengths to the next car on the highway? not anymore. Add this power to the RK xfactor suspension and their RRD racing shocks and my Jeep has become a sports car.

Thats what you all expected right?

Here's what you might not have expected. The overall feel of the truck has changed. The air waiting at the engines mouth everytime it breaths makes the jeep in the zone I live in, 1000 to 3000 RPM, feel LIGHTER.

The throttle response is so quick, I have to be more gentle with the gas pedal. If I touch it too quickly the truck will leap forward. Im used to the pentastar with weight all over my truck. Now it feels like my truck has gone on a strict diet.

Everything it does is effortless, where as before i could feel the weight of my truck.

Drag Racing-

Would my truck smoke a hemi? I'll have to find one to find out. I would be shocked if it didnt. I think i have more power at the wheels than a 5.7 hemi. (if anyone knows for sure let me know if they make more than 315 at the wheels)

The Hemi might jump out to a very early lead while I get through the powerband, but once in the sweet spot, Im pretty sure the "SuperStar" (supercharged pentastar) would slingshot past.

Is it way better than the stock pentastar? yes. In every possible way. It feels like a new engine. ESPECIALLY if your jeep is weighed down. I assume a stock JK with a supercharger would be an absolute rocket.

Auto trans- RIPP gives you Auto guys new shift points. So the truck is shifting when an how they want it to for optimum feel, drivability, and power.

With the manual, You will find yourself shifting a little later at first because you want to listen to the thing suck air. (it sounds soo cool). But once your past that, you find, that even in the lower RPM zone, its more comfortable to drive than before, and the lightness of it, I think would make long trips less exhausting.

I think I'll drive it to utah to find out.

[JeepLab]

Here's a soundbyte


http://youtu.be/Si_7kMqgUMI

[Rexx19]

This was a great thread. Seems to me that some head to head supercharger testing is comin up.

I assume the magnuson thread will be posted here next?

[JeepLab]

This was a great thread. Seems to me that some head to head supercharger testing is comin up.

I assume the magnuson thread will be posted here next?

yes, your right, We are trying to get all the base info posted, then we are going to get rolling with the head to head testing.

The magnuson thread will be here also

[Rexx19]

Ive been stalking the JL website waiting for the shootout.

You guys really do test stuff the best. Really went crazy with both superchargers.

[Rexx19]

Ive been stalking the JL website waiting for the shootout.

You guys really do test stuff the best. Really went crazy with both superchargers.

Same here.

[JeepLab]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RIPPMODS View Post
Hey, Ross - Just wanted to make clear the compressor is fresh and has break in oil in it... the gearing is making face and will get quieter over the next 500-1000 miles - Change the oil before you go.

RIPPTECH

Thank you RIPPTECH,

We will have over 1000 miles in the next 24 hours (driving cross country) Ill do another sound bite on saturday, when we stop for gas. So I'll update the thread with as second sound bite at 1000 miles.

[JeepLab]

Here's the nav shot. It's not set to Moab, we are going to nemesis industries in Colorado first.

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[JeepLab]

Ok so we are 500 miles into the run to moab. Not a hiccup from the supercharger.

We changed the oil, rotated the tires, changed the supercharger's oil. We are cruising at about 80.

I used 93 gas and the jeep tells me I'm just under 17 miles per gallon. I used to get about 13.

This is not my official calculation, ill tell you guys what I come out with a math calculation when we finish this tank of gas.

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[JeepLab]

That last pic is from when we left. Here's where we are now.

I think 4000 miles is a pretty good test of the durability of this set up. Also every jeep we see that recognizes the RIPP logo on the side of the truck provokes us to drop the hammer.

We don't disappoint them.

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[JeepLab]

Here's an update

CRANKIN!!! 1000 to go. Supercharger has been spinning for 13 hours straight.

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[JeepLab]

People wonder about brake and axle upgrades when you dump another hundred horse power on the pentastar,

I haven't changed the brakes. My position is that the pentastar would do these same speeds. It would just take longer to get to them.

So slowing down from them is the same. Could you act like a fool and chew your brakes up? Sure.

So do you need to upgrade them I would say no, Driving it now for about 18 hours straight now and the stock brakes are holding up great.

I doubt anyone who buys the supercharger will make it work like we are right now. (And we have 11 hours to go)

Also, its hard to cram bigger brakes into a 17 inch wheel

[JeepLab]

6 hours to go.

We are getting delirious!

[JeepLab]

We're in the ROCKIES! 9000 feet up. Supercharger is chewing up the mountains. 300 miles to go.

[JeepLab]

finally. Utah!

I tried to get a shot of the "Utah" sign, but Pete was driving way too fast.

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[JeepLab]

Krawling with RIPP and ROCK KRAWLER!

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[JeepLab]

Ok, Its been a few months, a few tunes, a few thousand miles, and here's what you should expect with a unit like this RIPP's SuperCharger for the pentastar.

First when you get it on, you will be SHOCKED at the power. Im not kidding, SHOCKED. The pentastar is a very good powerplant, the boys at ripp put it on steriods, and it loves the extra air.

You will drive like a nut at first. The power gushes all thru the powerband, but goes nuts over 3k RPM so your going to want to play there all the time at first. (Manual Trans) Your going to drive like a meth addict for the first few weeks or months. Its that much fun.

My truck makes about 340 horses at the wheels right now, and you can tell from the driver's seat. (35s, 4.10)

Once the smoke clears, and you settle down, you will return to your normal driving habits, and not flooring it over and over. You'll realize the power isnt just BIG, its Good. You will forget the SC is there, its an even power build thru the band so there is no spot where you feel the burst come on.

Outside the whistle sound, wich I think is super cool, (my truck sounds like an F-16) Its a pleasure in the lower powerband in daily driving.

RIPP knocked this out of the park. Remember, my truck took a BEATING in this situation. It was flogged on the dyno with pass after pass at RIPP while they were working out the kinks, then once I stole the keys back, I took it with an unfinished tune and drove it at 85mpg for 29hours (at once) to moab.

No one who buys this thing is going to punish it like we did, and it held up great.

At first I was apprehensive that I was going to ruin my truck doing engine work. I'd never screwed with an engine before. The end result is one of my favorite mods.

I'd like to see someone put one on an unlifted truck and see how fast it is, it will probably put down 360 on the dyno without the big tires.

[JeepLab]

Ok, I've done it. About a week ago I swore I'd keep my truck in the tac's green zone to give you guys an idea of the MPG increase with the SuperCharger.

Before and after install Everything on the truck is pretty much the same.

Before 12.7 mpg
After 15.8 mpg

Im figuring by the total miles traveled vs gallons required to fill again.

I should note, the After is Premium, and the Before is Regular gas.

[JeepLab]

Here is a driveby Sound byte


http://youtu.be/U-fNB7jIU3c

[JeepLab]

i use 93 octane in Black Betty,

So the fuel costs more, but you should go farther per gallon with the SuperCharger

Fuel cost is offset by better fuel economy. I get 3 MPG better with the S/C.

Maybe someone will figure out down to the penny what the total cost difference is. Betty on regular got 13 MPG before the supercharger, and 16 after (premium). So the price difference is more than just the difference between regular and premium

Keep in mind, you will drive a supercharged jeep more aggressively than a stock unit, so you probably wont see a great MPG gain. Its hard to stay off the gas.

[JeepLab]

If the pentastars head issues had you concerned with the extra power-

Dont be. My JK was delivered Jan 13 of 12. Meaning it was built in december of 11 when all those guys at chrysler were busted for drinking on the job.

Also, When I installed it, we BEAT THE HELL out of it by racing across the country after, I dont know how many, dyno runs.

No on on earth would beat their truck the way we did and the S/C held up fine. And my head is fine. Believe me I was concerned too. I didnt want to sleep while we were driving to moab because the other guys were driving like the truck was stolen.

[JeepLab]

Here's the 0-60 clip!


http://youtu.be/IYejVqH8gG8

[JeepLab]

Here's a fun shot. Im on my way to Rock Krawler at 8am on the NY state thruway, I couldnt believe how fast traffic was moving. I could completely cruise at about 90.

Look at the RPMs. this is on 37 inch KM2s and 4.10 gearing. Ungodly fast.

I slowed down to take the picture.

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[JeepLab]

Hey all

I just coiled over at rock krawler. My sc is turning 37s now.

The power is still there. I'm considering gears, I've got stock 4.10s

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[JeepLab]

Low End Roots, vs. High End with Centrifugal

Here's my opinion, high end......in lower gear. Sounds crazy, I know, your brain thinks you want low end because its a jeep, but I was climbing nearly straight up in Moab, in first, 4lo, and where others goosed the throttle, I'd ease the rpm up and she would slowly crawl. Made it look easy.

Spots offroad where you think you need momentum, with the sc you don't. It continues to build power, just steadily climbing.

Goosing the throttle is all of our enemy. It's how thing break.

[JeepLab]

Can adding the SC bring on the pentastar's dreaded tick? First its a 2012 problem,

Second, Here's my timeline.

My truck was built in December of 2011. Delivered Jan 13 2012.

So its an earlier 12. I never had a tick.

Put the SuperCharger on (UNTESTED) at about 10k miles.

RIPP my truck to develop the system map for manual trans jeeps. This means Dyno pass after Dyno pass as they played out every situation you could possibly be in on the road.

Then drove non stop cross country. There is no way your going to be harder on your truck.

Im at about 17k miles, I drive like a car thief, and there is no tick.

[JeepLab]

Here is a video showing that low gear, high RPM climbing technique i was just talking about.

Pete wants to goose the throttle, He is frustrated when I wont let him...watch what happens.


http://youtu.be/YOB8kcaHODY

[JeepLab]

Planning to get my hands on RIPP's 11 psi pulley to run more tests.

[Yoinkers]

Black Betty is one special Jeep.

If you had it to do over again.... Would you still put the RIPP SC on? Or go Mag? Or wait for the TURBO?

[JeepLab]

Black Betty is one special Jeep.

If you had it to do over again.... Would you still put the RIPP SC on? Or go Mag? Or wait for the TURBO?

This is a matter of taste.

I've driven with the RIPP SC for over a year now. I drove it cross country.

Would I love a mag if id had it the whole time? Maybe.

But having lived with this SC for so long, and how trouble free the jeep is with it, I can say, If i was building a new jeep tomorrow... It would have a RIPP.

[Rexx19]

This is a matter of taste.

I've driven with the RIPP SC for over a year now. I drove it cross country.

Would I love a mag if id had it the whole time? Maybe.

But having lived with this SC for so long, and how trouble free the jeep is with it, I can say, If i was building a new jeep tomorrow... It would have a RIPP.


That is quite the statement. But if betty had a mag...you might have loved that...

[Gunner]

Still concerned about running this on my 13 Auto. The trans codes are so severely restricted that I am afraid to mess with it.

[JeepLab]

Still concerned about running this on my 13 Auto. The trans codes are so severely restricted that I am afraid to mess with it.

I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with a 13, but I'll look into it.

[JeepLab]

I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with a 13, but I'll look into it.

Ok, word from the source is that the 2013 auto tune is polished. They do not expect any hiccups.

[Deola]

My dad's 13 JKU sport with auto trans has had a RIPP for several months and thousands of miles now. It has required several (2 hour each way) trips to get bugs straightened out. First tune was no good, nobody contacted us about the new one when it came available, we had to call and complain then they said " oh we have a new tune out that's bug- free". Also with the auto you have to remember there is a " lift to shift" while at full throttle where you have to completely remove your foot from the throttle for a second at the top of each gear or the trans won't shift for several seconds. It's not bouncing of the redline it just kills all power and let's the SC spool completely down. This was especially troublesome for my dad when attempting to pass on a 2 lane 55 mph road. We weren't advised of lift to shift method until the 4 the month of ownership. I'm glad that BB's experience has been flawless, but our experience has been anything but, with calls and emails never returned, tunes taking days to get returned( which means you can't even start you jeep), numerous extra expenses ( not too mention all the wasted gas and time), the last time it was in the shop 2.5 weeks. One of the most frustrating things was we traveled so far because that was the closest RIPP authorized dealer to our town, then having to listen to the blame game between ripp and their installer. I can only speak for my father and myself, but I would never buy from them again.

[UselessPickles]

These stories of tuning troubles on the automatics makes me glad I have a manual :)

[JeepLab]

I'm glad that BB's experience has been flawless, but our experience has been anything but,

Black Betty's flawless now...She is on her 10th tune. LOL. You have to realize that Its a 12, which means RIPP has an extra year of R&D with it, AND its a manual, that cuts out any issues from the tranny.

What this brings up, is the tunes with all manufacturers, and how long it takes to get a stable reliable tune.

Keep in mind, Ive never driven a supercharged auto. All our trucks are manual trans.

[Deola]

These stories of tuning troubles on the automatics makes me glad I have a manual :)

X2 for me, but for my Dad at almost 68 Years old an auto was the better choice.

[RIPPMODS]

My dad's 13 JKU sport with auto trans has had a RIPP for several months and thousands of miles now. It has required several (2 hour each way) trips to get bugs straightened out. First tune was no good, nobody contacted us about the new one when it came available, we had to call and complain then they said " oh we have a new tune out that's bug- free". Also with the auto you have to remember there is a " lift to shift" while at full throttle where you have to completely remove your foot from the throttle for a second at the top of each gear or the trans won't shift for several seconds. It's not bouncing of the redline it just kills all power and let's the SC spool completely down. This was especially troublesome for my dad when attempting to pass on a 2 lane 55 mph road. We weren't advised of lift to shift method until the 4 the month of ownership. I'm glad that BB's experience has been flawless, but our experience has been anything but, with calls and emails never returned, tunes taking days to get returned( which means you can't even start you jeep), numerous extra expenses ( not too mention all the wasted gas and time), the last time it was in the shop 2.5 weeks. One of the most frustrating things was we traveled so far because that was the closest RIPP authorized dealer to our town, then having to listen to the blame game between ripp and their installer. I can only speak for my father and myself, but I would never buy from them again.

Fist and foremost we are sorry for your experience. With over 4000 systems sold, your experience is in no way typical. That said, in the first page of the install instructions included with the system it states " Automatic Transmission: Auto Transmissions may not up shift at full throttle when driving in "D" (drive) mode, THIS IS a Direct product of OEM programming and not the provided tuning. In order to shift at full throttle, end users may either "lift to shift" by raising the accelerator slightly (partially).
We did make a public announcement in all of the major Jeep forums, and all of our social media outlets (Facebook,twitter,instagram,tumbler ect) that a tune update was available and that all owners should update to the latest tune.
Currently, all 3.6L Supercharger systems now come with a PRE PROGRAMED Diablosport I1000, which auto updates, when plugged into a PC with an internet connection, so there is no longer a wait for a tune to be emailed to the end user. The "Lift to shift " issue has also been addressed with the latest calibration, but some vehicle may need up to 2000 miles for the OEM adaptives to "learn". This is more the exception than the rule. We pride ourselves in our customer service and are sorry that we seem to have failed you in this.

Please Note this Email address ( ripptuning@gmail.com) as it should make any future technical issues or questions easier to address.

[JeepLab]

Fist and foremost we are sorry for your experience. With over 4000 systems sold, your experience is in no way typical. That said, in the first page of the install instructions included with the system it states " Automatic Transmission: Auto Transmissions may not up shift at full throttle when driving in "D" (drive) mode, THIS IS a Direct product of OEM programming and not the provided tuning. In order to shift at full throttle, end users may either "lift to shift" by raising the accelerator slightly (partially).
We did make a public announcement in all of the major Jeep forums, and all of our social media outlets (Facebook,twitter,instagram,tumbler ect) that a tune update was available and that all owners should update to the latest tune.
Currently, all 3.6L Supercharger systems now come with a PRE PROGRAMED Diablosport I1000, which auto updates, when plugged into a PC with an internet connection, so there is no longer a wait for a tune to be emailed to the end user. The "Lift to shift " issue has also been addressed with the latest calibration, but some vehicle may need up to 2000 miles for the OEM adaptives to "learn". This is more the exception than the rule. We pride ourselves in our customer service and are sorry that we seem to have failed you in this.

Please Note this Email address ( ripptuning@gmail.com) as it should make any future technical issues or questions easier to address.

Deola, is your dad's truck up to date on updates? I hope this nips your problem.

[Deola]

As far as I know, I was outta service all day today, and work tomorrow. I can check on it Sunday. We had it tuned 3-4 weeks ago, so if the tune is newer than that then no, he doesn't have it.

[RIPPMODS]

As far as I know, I was outta service all day today, and work tomorrow. I can check on it Sunday. We had it tuned 3-4 weeks ago, so if the tune is newer than that then no, he doesn't have it.

Lets get this right. Please keep in touch with us.

[Deola]

Lets get this right. Please keep in touch with us.

I contacted the installer today, waiting to hear back from them.

[Deola]

The jeep has the newest tune.

[UselessPickles]

... but does the Trinity tuner have the latest firmware version?

There have been some problems that were not the fault of the tune itself, but the tuner's software that writes the tune. If you contact RIPP with the Trinity in-hand and powered up, they should be able to walk you through checking the firmware version on your tuner and let you know if you need to update it. They should be aware of which versions of the firmware had problems.

[RIPPMODS]

... but does the Trinity tuner have the latest firmware version?

There have been some problems that were not the fault of the tune itself, but the tuner's software that writes the tune. If you contact RIPP with the Trinity in-hand and powered up, they should be able to walk you through checking the firmware version on your tuner and let you know if you need to update it. They should be aware of which versions of the firmware had problems.

This is a recent post we have made in another forum:


Yes, we are constantly refining our product. Make sure your tool (diablosport) has the latest firmware update. This can be done by the following:

RM1000 (I1000 InTune) Plug the unit into any PC with an internet connection.

For T1000 (Trinity)

1. Uninstall your ripp tune and return the stock (original backup file) to your JK ( Un-Marry) the tool from your vehicle)
2. Download DS Downloader from the diablosport website and install on your PC
3. Plug your trinity in to your PC

4. FOLLOW THIS VIDEO!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdX1MGTIB2o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdX1MGTIB2o

5.After you have completed the steps above, re-marry your T-1000. Re-retrieve the original backup file.

6. Re install your RIPP Tune.

To make sure your are running the latest RIPP TUNE, Contact ripptuning@gmail.com, put in the the subject: Tune update.

Please include a copy of the following files.
A. Original Backup file
B. Last tune written

If you have any questions, Please do not hesitate to give us a call.

718-815-1313 ext.11

Questions welcome!

RIPP

[Pznivy]

So is this solved?

[Deola]

I followed the above steps before. Then I had the ecu reflashed at the dealer and reinstalled the tune. They were afraid the aev procal was stacked.

[RIPPMODS]

I followed the above steps before. Then I had the ecu reflashed at the dealer and reinstalled the tune. They were afraid the aev procal was stacked.

Don't be afraid to stack the AEV ON TOP of our tune. We have found that the AEV Procal does a better job of modifying the parameters in the ECU/BCM!

RIPP

[Rexx19]

Don't be afraid to stack the AEV ON TOP of our tune. We have found that the AEV Procal does a better job of modifying the parameters in the ECU/BCM!

RIPP

The intune allows for axle ratio and tire size changes. is it better to use the intune with the RIPP tune to change that stuff? or do you like pro cal better?

[RIPPMODS]

The intune allows for axle ratio and tire size changes. is it better to use the intune with the RIPP tune to change that stuff? or do you like pro cal better?

As of now, we still feel the AEV does a better job of writing to the ECU/BCM than the intune in the 2012+ for wheel/tire and diff ratios. Diablosport is always updating their firmware. Though we know this to be a sure fire solution for customers that may be experiencing transmission shift issues. This affects only a few CAL ID vehicles.

RIPP

[Deola]

My dad's has the trinity vs the intune and was advised to use the aev procal and not the diablo when we went to new gears and tires.