View Full Version : Jeep Paint Protection using Xpel Ultimate Self Healing Film
Snarf77
03-07-2014, 11:10 AM
I've been driving jeeps since I was 14 and I'm more than familiar with following off road trails that get more and more narrow as you go along. Overgrowth sends tree branches and thorn bushes out into the trail and we're all too lazy to get out and move them and just plow right through. I've actually never owned a jeep that didn't end up whiskered with scratches.
This JK, "Jesse's Girl" is the most expensive jeep I've ever owned, most of my old rides being CJs with rust and or 2-3 paintjobs over the last 30 years with rust coming out with every pothole. This is my first Jeep that looks as good as it performs, and I decided I wanted to keep it that way. Also, I'm fairly lazy anymore and don't have the time to constantly buff and wax my jeep as I'd rather be wheeling or wrenching.
So this company, Xpel offers clear vinyl wrap in a bunch of different levels of protection from standard clear car-bra to self-healing badass bras that can take rocks hits, scratches and chemicals and not even blink. So you get to reading on their website about what each one does, and the warranties that come along and its pretty cool. Also, my jeep doesn't have a huge amount of painted surface considering the top is not painted so why not do the whole thing!
Well that's just what I'm doing. I'm wrapping the painted surfaces of my jeep in Xpel Ultimate Self Healing film. There are some wicked youtube videos showing the film getting scratched up with metal brushes and healing the scratches over time...and not much time at that. I figured it would make the jeep look good for years to come and prevent me from having to do as much work (see laziness above).
So I'm not that technical with chemistry but the ultimate film is basically 4 layers of film bonded together. The layer closest to the jeep is a flexible adhesive "release liner". The second layer is "1.6 mil ultra clear acrylic copolymer", whatever that is, followed by a 6 mil polyurethane flexible layer with memory, and topped with a .5 mil "low surface energy" clear coat with "elastomeric polymers". I'm guessing that is what "heals" the scratches when they happen.
I watched every video on youtube and was sold on the stuff, so went on the xpel site to find a well rated installed. There were some local folks, but I'm betting the 7 year warranty hinges on proper installation. Plus, I spoke to the installer and he does it right by removing all trim, door handles, locks, etc, vice cutting around them with a scalpel.
So here is my Jesse's Girl halfway through install. Before the wrap could go on, the jeep is detailed, clay barred, buffed and paint chips were repaired, etc.
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Its only halfway done, but I'll definitely post some more pictures as it progresses.
JeepLab
03-08-2014, 03:07 PM
Black Betty is wrapped in this stuff. 2 years later she is blacker than any truck I park next. No swirl marks.
Black paint above all others really needs this stuff.
Snarf77
03-08-2014, 06:44 PM
I'm even having my tube fenders wrapped. That's completely custom work whereas most of it is printed out using CAD templates. Here they are now, hope to get them all installed in the next week.
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JeepLab
03-09-2014, 05:46 PM
Black Betty's Carbon Fiber RK sport hood and flares are about to get wrapped.
The rest of the truck is wrapped. The flares were terribly done and were not a clean enough job to wrap. Ive found a powdercoater worth taking a chance on, so Im going to strip the nemesis flares and have them done. Then wrapped. I tried to wrap the RK sport hood myself, and it didnt come out quite perfect... so its going to get re-done.
Here are some shots of her getting wrapped when she was born. This was the first thing I did to her. Took her from the dealership to the wrapper. That black paint is PERFECT under her wrap.
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If anyone out there wants to tackle this mod. Find a GOOD shop. AND you want to see the truck, AFTER prep, and BEFORE wrap. They have to clay bar and polish the entire truck before the wrap goes on. You want to see your truck perfect? You have to see it before the wrap goes on.
Even if you cannot go back to see it before the wrap. Tell the shop that you do want to see it after prep and before wrap. That way they will make sure its perfect. Then you can let them wrap it. Check xpel.com for one of their installers. Thats best for the 10 year warranty.
Snarf77
03-09-2014, 06:09 PM
If anyone out there wants to tackle this mod. Find a GOOD shop. AND you want to see the truck, AFTER prep, and BEFORE wrap. They have to clay bar and polish the entire truck before the wrap goes on. You want to see your truck perfect? You have to see it before the wrap goes on.
Even if you cannot go back to see it before the wrap. Tell the shop that you do want to see it after prep and before wrap. That way they will make sure its perfect. Then you can let them wrap it. Check xpel.com for one of their installers. Thats best for the 10 year warranty.
I went on xpel.com and found a very high rated dealer. This guy spent forever prepping the paint. He clay barred the paint several times, then even repaired a few scratches. Then the vehicle gets washed several times and the application area stays damp to prevent dust. In between body panels, they actually wash the jeep again! He was telling me how static and air movement will let dust find its way to the paint no matter how hard you try to keep it clean between panels.
What I thought was cool is that my installer actually took the CAD designs and modified them to allow himself more material to tuck under the edges and around corners of panels. A good installer probably means the difference between excellent and average results.
JeepLab
03-09-2014, 06:16 PM
I went on xpel.com and found a very high rated dealer. This guy spent forever prepping the paint. He clay barred the paint several times, then even repaired a few scratches. Then the vehicle gets washed several times and the application area stays damp to prevent dust. In between body panels, they actually wash the jeep again! He was telling me how static and air movement will let dust find its way to the paint no matter how hard you try to keep it clean between panels.
What I thought was cool is that my installer actually took the CAD designs and modified them to allow himself more material to tuck under the edges and around corners of panels. A good installer probably means the difference between excellent and average results.
Thats a good installer. Also, some installers will tell you that only BLACK paint needs to be "clay-bar'd". Do not buy that. Its a guy taking a short cut. All colors should be clay-bar'd. Its a good way to tell if you have a good installer. Someone who will start by telling you what you "dont need" is the wrong installer.
Snarf, tell us what you paid for install?
Black Betty, full truck, all surfaces, painted flares, AND the painted top... cost $2200. I'm not sure I love the installation tho. Only I can see the issues but there were some corners cut....And i wont getting new wrap done where the old wrap was done. Also make sure they promise to remove your top. They cant get to the edges of the rear section if the top remains installed. If they say they are not going to take the top off, find another installer.
Pznivy
03-12-2014, 01:26 PM
Good Info. Im thinking of doing my grill only. That thing gets beaten to death with rocks.
I might need to have it painted first tho.
Deola
03-12-2014, 07:18 PM
How much does this run?
JeepLab
03-12-2014, 08:37 PM
I paid 2200 to have my whole truck wrapped. Painted top included and flares. (thats install only, not wrap)
Your cost will depend on how much of your truck is getting wrapped.
Im not sure how much just the grill would be. But should be pretty cheap. They also make cut out shapes. One specific for the nose of the JK
Snarf77
03-13-2014, 09:00 PM
Apparently there is some history between companies and templates for vehicles are available from multiple sources. I've been removing the Plasti-Dip from my grille and hope to get it wrapped. If I do I'll post the cost for just the grille. My guess is about $150 labor. There are some complex angles on the grille.
JeepLab
03-15-2014, 12:38 PM
Id like to see a thread on removing plasti-dip. Im convinced that will be an all out war.
As far as the grill, you dont follow all the contours. You lay one big flat piece of wrap over it, then squeegee it down. The inside of the lights remains unwrapped. The inner contour of the grill slots remains unwrapped.
Thats how mine is. I was concerned about every millimeter not being covered, but 2 years later those parts are all fine.
DHewes
04-26-2014, 11:21 AM
After years of owning a black 99 TJ Sahara I know what the paint looks like in very short order. I picked up my new 2014 Anvil JKU Rubicon X about 6 weeks ago...just broke the 500 mile point...and want to wrap it before anything else. I ordered my JK with painted hard top and fenders so I have a lot to wrap. Found the best rated installer in South Carolina and spent an hour with him looking at my truck. While there are several "kits" (CAD drawings that are plotted out on the film) they are far from covering every painted surface. The roof and and places like the space between the doors and wheel wells are just not part of any kit. This guy can do all the custom work and has a full closed in paint booth inside an already fairly clean warehouse and seems extremely detailed oriented. We worked up the numbers...and this is where the pain starts...the price at full list including square footage for the custom areas was $5900. He will give me a discount down to $4300 for everything. I wasn't expecting the film to cost what a good paint job costs but then it is guaranteed to look new for 10 years.
It's difficult for me to go from TJ mindset to twice as expensive Rubi X with leather, 730 audio system and completely NON hose out interior mindset. Considering what paid and the money that I am dropping on a full Game Changer lift kit and either a turbo or SC, I guess it's not a huge jump to wrap but I am still coming to terms with it.
Those that have done this...thoughts?
JeepLab
04-26-2014, 08:59 PM
I paid 2700 for my wrap 60 inch by 60 ft.
I paid 2200 for the install.
I got it all custom and every painted surface. There isnt an inch on black betty thats not covered. Painted roof and all.