im a fan of a custom tune. JL's BB tune is pretty much custom as Betty was the 6 speed prototype truck for them. So her tune is not a plug in. Its ripp tuning her perfectly, then sending Betty's tune to the other buyer so the ripp kit.

Pretty cool that people all over the US are driving trucks based on the tuning of Black Betty.

Originally Posted by Rexx19

im a fan of a custom tune. JL's BB tune is pretty much custom as Betty was the 6 speed prototype truck for them. So her tune is not a plug in. Its ripp tuning her perfectly, then sending Betty's tune to the other buyer so the ripp kit.

Pretty cool that people all over the US are driving trucks based on the tuning of Black Betty.

BB was the prototype for the manual trans '12 Ripp kit, But I'm not sure that the current tune is built off her cpu. She has been back to RIPP a few times, and they have released new tunes after, but I think Ripp has a few test trucks now, Im not sure if they are all 12s. Betty was the first Manual trans, but I don't think she is currently the only one.

Whats up with the hi alt kits? Deola just put his in, Is JL's SC's upgraded?

We have the parts, but I havent had my hands on sweet pea in weeks, and Betty has been getting her coilovers reworked.

We are getting around to it. Might even dyno the new pulleys for comparison.

Originally Posted by JeepLab

We have the parts, but I havent had my hands on sweet pea in weeks, and Betty has been getting her coilovers reworked.

We are getting around to it. Might even dyno the new pulleys for comparison.

Oh, yes, yes, please dyno!!!

Did you ever find out, do the SC makers really support using High Elevation pully's at sea level? How much extra psi do you expect out of the high elevation pully's? I thought I remember that standard you were getting around 8 psi, correct?

Originally Posted by JeepLab

Cheap enough to consider, but really, the tune from the the manufacturer should sort out issues like surging.

Your shop is probably pretty good. I wouldnt leave the truck with just anyone promising to tune it.

Anyone reading this, check your shop's references.

I agree that 650 is a reasonable price for a custom tune if it will really solve issues we users are having. That said, where does one go to find a good tuner and check their references? I'd even be willing to share a custom tune file with the supercharger manufacturer so they can compare to the tunes they are putting out. Perhaps the feedback might help others. We've been patiently waiting for manufacturers to set up test truck and try to replicate customer issues but it's taking quite a while.

Based on what my tuner has told me and from my data logging on my computer the surging people are experiencing near 2k rpm is the engine running very lean for about a second and picks back up also when WOT the air fuel was running extremely rich. For new people to boost a desired number cruising is 14.7 for air fuel anything above is lean and below that number is rich. My tuner told me that ideal air fuel when WOT full boost should be around 11.1 i was running 8.3 and was losing gas out the tail pipe and lost power running that rich. He tuned it and it runs just like a normal factory truck. Ripp did a well job dialing a in box tune so you can drive it all day everyday but i suggest just getting it dialed in spend the money know your engine is running proper i beleive no truck is the same and will run slightly different depending on conditions

Originally Posted by 2k13jk

Based on what my tuner has told me and from my data logging on my computer the surging people are experiencing near 2k rpm is the engine running very lean for about a second and picks back up also when WOT the air fuel was running extremely rich. For new people to boost a desired number cruising is 14.7 for air fuel anything above is lean and below that number is rich. My tuner told me that ideal air fuel when WOT full boost should be around 11.1 i was running 8.3 and was losing gas out the tail pipe and lost power running that rich. He tuned it and it runs just like a normal factory truck. Ripp did a well job dialing a in box tune so you can drive it all day everyday but i suggest just getting it dialed in spend the money know your engine is running proper i beleive no truck is the same and will run slightly different depending on conditions

good info!

Originally Posted by JeepLab

good info!

So final dyno numbers are in from my custom tune ripps tune made 250 wheel on the dyno running extremely rich now with my new tune i made 344 wheel

Originally Posted by 2k13jk

So final dyno numbers are in from my custom tune ripps tune made 250 wheel on the dyno running extremely rich now with my new tune i made 344 wheel

standard pulley or high alt?

Originally Posted by JeepLab

standard pulley or high alt?

That was with the standard pulley running 8lbs of boost

Originally Posted by 2k13jk

That was with the standard pulley running 8lbs of boost

Do you have a chart?

I got 328 (I think) 4.10 gearing, 6spd, 32" tires, Did you have all the same set up?

Originally Posted by JeepLab

Do you have a chart?

I got 328 (I think) 4.10 gearing, 6spd, 32" tires, Did you have all the same set up?

Im running 35s 6 speed 3.21 gears i have the chart but idk how to upload it

As a new JK owner looking to figure out which direction to go I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your experiences.

Originally Posted by BigPrince

As a new JK owner looking to figure out which direction to go I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your experiences.

How did I miss the first post? Did this guy just skip to post 2?

WELCOME PRINCE!

Originally Posted by 2k13jk

Im running 35s 6 speed 3.21 gears i have the chart but idk how to upload it

Really, you are running 3.21 gearing and you got 344 whp? That is awesome. So tell me, how does it drive with your setup? If my finances line up, I'm on the edge of a getting a Magnuson SC, and upgrading to 37" tires (I'm at 35" now.) I imagine 37" tires with my 3.73 ratio will be similar to your 35" tires with the 3.21 ratio, so I'm curious if you feel you need to re-gear (given that we are both manual transmissions, so we can just down shift to a lower gear when needed.)

I wish I could pull the trigger on these items right now, but lately my money has been getting sucked away with family needs. It's amazing how expensive braces are these days for kids! I mean, that's a set of tires right there! Both of them, and that is a supercharger! I'm going to remind them of that when they are older, A LOT. "You like those straight teeth? I hope you do, because your teeth cost me my upgrades on my Jeep. You know how much fun we would have had doing burn-outs and cruisin' around on 37" tires? I hope you appreciate what was sacrificed so you could have straight teeth."

It seems that the higher axle gear (lower number) makes more power on the dyno.

2k13jk making more than black betty using the factors of larger tires, 32 vs 35, and higher gearing 3.21 vs 4.10 makes the hp numbers climb.... Or so the prodigy thread says.

That seemed to be the reason that Jesse's Girl with a turbo and 4.88s made less power than expected.

SOOOOO many variables with these dynos.

Hello everyone! I have been stressing for the past week over what SC to buy.. I live in Utah at 4400 ft. above sea level and on occasion pull a two place Harley trailer or a 20' Ski boat over mountain passes (7000-8000 Ft). They are quoting me 10K for the Maggie (High Altitude Version) with Diablo tuner and a PLX multi gauge to monitor boost, AFR, O2 Sensor, knock and alarms. The price includes before and after Dyno testing and four hours of tuning. My quote for the Ripp SC is 8K for the system, install, tuning and Dyno. Is the extra gauges unnecessary and redundant? What is best for my application as described? Any input is greatly appreciated. System is going on a 2012 four door JK, running 35's with a 4 inch teraflex lift and 4.88 gears, automatic tranny, with Ram Air Intake and Magna flow exhaust.

WELCOME!

Originally Posted by ferrarifast

Hello everyone! I have been stressing for the past week over what SC to buy.. I live in Utah at 4400 ft. above sea level and on occasion pull a two place Harley trailer or a 20' Ski boat over mountain passes (7000-8000 Ft). They are quoting me 10K for the Maggie (High Altitude Version) with Diablo tuner and a PLX multi gauge to monitor boost, AFR, O2 Sensor, knock and alarms. The price includes before and after Dyno testing and four hours of tuning. My quote for the Ripp SC is 8K for the system, install, tuning and Dyno. Is the extra gauges unnecessary and redundant? What is best for my application as described? Any input is greatly appreciated. System is going on a 2012 four door JK, running 35's with a 4 inch teraflex lift and 4.88 gears, automatic tranny, with Ram Air Intake and Magna flow exhaust.

Im sure JL will weigh in, but in these cases, where we are talking towing i think you want the most low end you can get. The Magnuson may be worth its price here. BUT.... have they figured out their tune?

Manual trans or auto?

Originally Posted by Yoinkers

WELCOME!



Im sure JL will weigh in, but in these cases, where we are talking towing i think you want the most low end you can get. The Magnuson may be worth its price here. BUT.... have they figured out their tune?

Manual trans or auto?

Automatic transmission