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  • RIPP vs. Magnuson...SuperCharger Shootout!

    You knew it was coming. Its finally here. We are going to turn these to SuperCharger heavy weights loose against one another in a battery of tests. Lets get to know the competitors.



    Reigning Champ - Black Betty. She's and internet celebrity, been on the cutting edge of prototype gear for the last 2 years. She'll be representing RIPP SuperChargers in this all out throw down. She is a Rubicon Unlimited with 4.10 gearing and for the purposes of these tests, she will shed her 37'' KM2s in favor of BFG Kms 255/75r17. (stock Rubi tires)



    The Challenger - Sweet Pea / Pea Soup'd. Yes she's got two names, one from us, and the other from one of our readers. She's essentially brand new. 2013 JKUR all stock everything....Except her Magnuson SuperCharger.



    Whats the difference? Two routes to the same end. MORE POWER. its widely known that there is really no way to add punch to your JEEP JK without taking drastic measures. We have done the dyno testing on intakes and exhausts. The sound changes, but not much else. If you really want to unleash the beast that is your pentastar JK motor, we are paving the road for you.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: RIPP vs. Magnuson...SuperCharger Shootout! started by JeepLab View original post
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    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Each unit does give the truck the air that something incredible is lurking under the hood.

      The Magnuson is very understated. Thats going to be their calling card, until you hit the gas. Here are the two grills side by side.

      Attachment 139 Attachment 140

      The RIPP unit is more "in your face". You could walk by the MAG and not think there was anything special going on. Complete Sleeper.

      With RIPP you can tell a mile away that your not dealing with the normal JK. There is a monster living under the hood. And that intercooler is the only warning you can see from a distance.

      Here are the full noses.

      Attachment 141 Attachment 142

      As far as picking a winner here, its going to come down to your personal taste. However for overall coolness, the victory in this category goes to RIPP

      Coolness Winner: RIPP
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      We didn't install our RIPP unit, but we can pretty much see how it was done. We did the MAG unit ourselves in under 9 hours overall with an hour break in the middle.

      The RIPP install is the more invasive of the two. People say you can unbolt and go back to stock if you want. With the RIPP unit, its not quite that easy. there is some sections of the engine bay that need trimming to fit the pipes thru to the intercooler. You are not fixing that after the fact. So there will always be clues to anyone looking that the engine bay was modded at some point. The trimming isnt severe, but its there.

      Attachment 143

      You will also change the coolant bottle with the RIPP unit. Something else to hold on to if you thought you might uninstall in the future.

      Attachment 144

      Here's the finished product

      Attachment 146

      The magnuson install is borderline easy, and less invasive. You will cut some hoses, but nothing that cannot be undone later. It does have a flaw however. When you install the coolant pump, you'll see its low in the engine bay. About the same level as the bumper. This pump is water "resistant" but not "waterproof". So its a consideration you have to be aware of off road. We think they will relocate it in the future, or change to a waterproof pump, but as of today, its not.

      Attachment 147

      Attachment 145

      Installation Winner: Magnuson
    1. Rexx19's Avatar
      Rexx19 -
      Finally! Been waiting for this one....Subscribed!
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      This is a tough call. But since we are comparing out of the box units, I have to do it as it is.

      Ill tell you right out of the box, its RIPP by a mile. You can barely tell that the Magnuson unit is installed, as "out of the box" like we are talking here, you would put your stock intake back on. The stock intake silences the pentastar. Here are some soundbytes so you can see the difference from one unit to the other.

      Here's the RIPP's sound bytes

      First, here is the drive by sound. Black Betty sounds like a fighter jet on the road. The whistling pentastar sounds like a jet engine.

      ** Sweet Pea is in this video, but she is not supercharged at the time. We used her as the stock jeep.



      Heres another one



      Now for the Magnuson unit -



      Just for fun, to show how terrible the stock intake is for muffling the fantastic noises that the pentastar engine makes, here is a video we did for the AFE Pro Guard 7 intake. You can hear the difference immediatly, and this is just the intake.



      As far as crowning a winner with only the gear you get "out of the box" with your supercharger purchase, RIPP wins easily, once you put an intake on the Magnuson unit, it might be a completely different ball game. (ill do it for fun)

      Sound Winner: RIPP
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      after listening to those videos, we really have to get an intake on the Magnuson unit.
    1. Pznivy's Avatar
      Pznivy -
      Is the snow melted there yet? I cant wait for you to post the side by side zero to 60s.

      Ive got my finger on the trigger for an SC.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Im going to wire the trucks up for the 0-60 this weekend both with the stock tires.

      The snow is melting. And it should be about 50 degrees.

      I need to figure out the weight differences between the trucks, as Betty is heavier and taller, Im going to put some extra weight in Sweet pea for an even test.

      I'll figure it out down to the ounce.
    1. Rexx19's Avatar
      Rexx19 -
      Whats the next category?
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      the 0-60 video is done, Im editing now. stay tuned.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Can anyone figure out the actual 0-60 for a Pentastar Rubicon?

      The 0-60s im finding from chrysler are with lower gearing.
    1. Gunner's Avatar
      Gunner -
      This place is a pretty good resource for specs on jeeps.something happened Gotta go back and check what is wrong.

      http://www.automobile-catalog.com
      Just fill in the jeep you want and you can get specs on it for all speeds.
    1. Pete's Avatar
      Pete -
      I see 9.3 seconds on this page with 3.73s.

      Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
      This place is a pretty good resource for specs on jeeps.something happened Gotta go back and check what is wrong.

      http://www.automobile-catalog.com
      Just fill in the jeep you want and you can get specs on it for all speeds.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
      Each unit does give the truck the air that something incredible is lurking under the hood.

      The Magnuson is very understated. Thats going to be their calling card, until you hit the gas. Here are the two grills side by side.

      Attachment 139 Attachment 140

      The RIPP unit is more "in your face". You could walk by the MAG and not think there was anything special going on. Complete Sleeper.

      With RIPP you can tell a mile away that your not dealing with the normal JK. There is a monster living under the hood. And that intercooler is the only warning you can see from a distance.

      Here are the full noses.

      Attachment 141 Attachment 142

      As far as picking a winner here, its going to come down to your personal taste. However for overall coolness, the victory in this category goes to RIPP

      Coolness Winner: RIPP
      Here's a comment from Gunner in our blog. -

      The Maggie looks like an A/C unit. The Ripp looks B/A. That said I would most likely spray them black to keep it low profile from thieves. I had a GMC Typhoon back in the day. It used the water to air. The unit needed lots of airflow to not get hot. The faster guys switched to air to air for drags and high speed stuff. I am looking forward to how it holds up during your first summer. I am betting on the air to air having cooler intake temps when your running in traffic. Plus the Blower is right on top of the engine where the ripp is in the air flow from the radiator. It is going to be interesting.
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      Let's see those videos and stats, so we can pull the trigger. Great work you guys are doing
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Thanks!

      The 0-60 vid should be out later today. Im trying to juggle my day job and finish editing.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Here's the head to head 0-60 video. Tell us what you think.

    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Next up im going to lay the dyno charts on top of one another so we can see the exact differences at different RPM
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
      Next up im going to lay the dyno charts on top of one another so we can see the exact differences at different RPM
      Looking forward to the numbers, and curves.
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      That should only take about 5 minutes :-p

      You know you can load multiple run files into WinPEP at the same time to view multiple runs on the same chart? Open all relevant files into WinPEP, take a screenshot, post to the forum... DONE! Maybe include the stock dyno run in there too for a direct comparison between all 3.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      I learned a little about weight vs. time with 0-60 testing, and the lesson was that 100 lbs = .10 seconds.
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