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    • RIPP vs. Magnuson...SuperCharger Shootout!

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      JeepLab
      Published on 02-18-2014 12:51 PM
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      You knew it was coming. Its finally here. We are going to turn these to SuperCharger heavy weights loose against one another in a battery of tests. Lets get to know the competitors.



      Reigning Champ - Black Betty. She's and internet celebrity, been on the cutting edge of prototype gear for the last 2 years. She'll be representing RIPP SuperChargers in this all out throw down. She is a Rubicon Unlimited with 4.10 gearing and for the purposes of these tests, she will shed her 37'' KM2s in favor of BFG Kms 255/75r17. (stock Rubi tires)



      The Challenger - Sweet Pea / Pea Soup'd. Yes she's got two names, one from us, and the other from one of our readers. She's essentially brand new. 2013 JKUR all stock everything....Except her Magnuson SuperCharger.



      Whats the difference? Two routes to the same end. MORE POWER. its widely known that there is really no way to add punch to your JEEP JK without taking drastic measures. We have done the dyno testing on intakes and exhausts. The sound changes, but not much else. If you really want to unleash the beast that is your pentastar JK motor, we are paving the road for you.
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      1. Rexx19's Avatar
        Rexx19 - 08-31-2014, 03:05 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by ferrarifast View Post
        Automatic transmission
        Someone here said that the RIPP SC struggled to shift with the auto. I dont know if mag has the same problem. All the JL trucks are manual trans.

        Anyone here have a automatic magnuson who can tell us if you have to "Lift to shift"?

        Lift to shift will annoy you. Maybe ripp has worked it out by now, I'd confirm and go with wichever promised that you do not have to "Lift To Shift"
      1. 2k13jk's Avatar
        2k13jk - 08-31-2014, 04:19 PM
        2000 for gauges is way to much i bought an aem wide band and boost built in 1 gauge omes with everything you need to install it. Mine cost 330 from pepboys definitely worth the money
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 08-31-2014, 04:52 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by Rexx19 View Post
        Someone here said that the RIPP SC struggled to shift with the auto. I dont know if mag has the same problem. All the JL trucks are manual trans.

        Anyone here have a automatic magnuson who can tell us if you have to "Lift to shift"?

        Lift to shift will annoy you. Maybe ripp has worked it out by now, I'd confirm and go with wichever promised that you do not have to "Lift To Shift"
        Yes, I agree. Lift to shift would annoy me... Does anyone have any experience with a Magnuson and auto tranny?
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 08-31-2014, 05:08 PM
        How hard was it to install yourself? THX
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 08-31-2014, 06:33 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by ferrarifast View Post
        How hard was it to install yourself? THX
        The mag is an easy install. We did it on one day.

        The lift to shift comment earlier is a good one. Id contact both companies RIPP and Mag and see if they can swear you wont have the lift to shift problem. If they tell you it will be a non issue, then you can decide. If one says no prob, and the other wont, there's your answer.
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 08-31-2014, 09:22 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        The mag is an easy install. We did it on one day.

        The lift to shift comment earlier is a good one. Id contact both companies RIPP and Mag and see if they can swear you wont have the lift to shift problem. If they tell you it will be a non issue, then you can decide. If one says no prob, and the other wont, there's your answer.
        Thats a good suggestion.. Thank you. How important is the person doing the tuning at the time of install in the whole process? The Maggie dealer is quoting me four hours of tuning at $125.00 per to tune. I thought the programmer unit did the actual tuning or I am missing something here? Money is not really the issue, but I hate being taken advantage of..
      1. 2k13jk's Avatar
        2k13jk - 09-01-2014, 01:24 AM
        My tuner took about 2.5 hours and 5 dyno pulls to dial it in the programmer is whats used to dial in your air fuel ratio along with your timing for optimal performance do not skimp on a good tuner if it comes to saving a few bucks cuase it can cost you an engine if not tuned correctly also the gauge was easy to install hardest part was welding in the wideband bung in the exhaust for the gauge
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 09-01-2014, 06:24 AM
        Thats good info on the guy doing the tuning. It sounds like a experienced tuner is probably the most important part of the whole process regardless of system one chooses. Thank you for your input
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 09-01-2014, 09:15 AM
        Quote Originally Posted by ferrarifast View Post
        Thats good info on the guy doing the tuning. It sounds like a experienced tuner is probably the most important part of the whole process regardless of system one chooses. Thank you for your input
        That is a step beyond. The tune out of the box should be good, Only if you have problems, would I pay someone to customize the tune.

        The tunes take months to build, and the tuners at Ripp, Mag, Prodigy, are people who do nothing but tune.

        I'd trust them first, and if you find parts you don't like, id tell the manufacturer first, see if they can correct the tune for you. If that fails, then pay a tuner.

        I would not jump to screwing with an established tune until i knew i had a problem with it that the person who made it will not solve. Also, your paying by the hour, so to be able to state specific problems that need attention rather than something general will keep the cost down.

        "I have a dead spot at 2500 rpm in 3rd gear" "the throttle surges at cruising speed" Stuff like that. Pinpoint the problems first, it will save time and money.

        finally, and most important, make sure you have a competent shop. Needs to be a race shop or tuner where the person tuning knows what they are looking at. You don't want some fool with a dyno screwing with your truck. Check references. google the shop. look at it like selecting a doctor to work on your child.
      1. Yoinkers's Avatar
        Yoinkers - 09-03-2014, 07:26 PM
        I got a bad tune job once with a camaro i played with years ago. I got charged for the tune, it wasnt good, then they charged me for the time to fix it, stating that it was the compoents that were at fault.

        custom tuning can be a can of worms. F that.
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 09-05-2014, 09:33 PM
        I ordered the Magnuson SC with high altitude pulley yesterday. The plan is to dyno prior to install as well as after to document the performance gains.. I will keep you posted as job gets done.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 09-05-2014, 09:38 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by ferrarifast View Post
        I ordered the Magnuson SC with high altitude pulley yesterday. The plan is to dyno prior to install as well as after to document the performance gains.. I will keep you posted as job gets done.
        Check this guy out! We love a dyno chart.

        What is your gear ratio and tire size?
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 09-05-2014, 10:31 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        Check this guy out! We love a dyno chart.

        What is your gear ratio and tire size?
        Gears are 4.88 with 35 x 20 Nitto Trail Grapplers...
      1. Timmy's Avatar
        Timmy - 09-06-2014, 10:50 AM
        Quote Originally Posted by ferrarifast View Post
        I ordered the Magnuson SC with high altitude pulley yesterday. The plan is to dyno prior to install as well as after to document the performance gains.. I will keep you posted as job gets done.

        ...Gears are 4.88 with 35 x 20 Nitto Trail Grapplers...
        Oooooh, thank you, thank you, thank you. Magnuson SC with high elevation pulley, with 35" tires and about that gear ratio is exactly the setup I'd be looking at. Can't wait to see the before and after charts. Are you doing the install yourself or having a shop do it? Do you have any other after market mods on the engine (or planned at same time) such as high-flow air, exhaust, etc.?

        BTW... Welcome ferrarifast!
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 09-06-2014, 11:09 AM
        Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
        Oooooh, thank you, thank you, thank you. Magnuson SC with high elevation pulley, with 35" tires and about that gear ratio is exactly the setup I'd be looking at. Can't wait to see the before and after charts. Are you doing the install yourself or having a shop do it? Do you have any other after market mods on the engine (or planned at same time) such as high-flow air, exhaust, etc.?

        BTW... Welcome ferrarifast!
        Thanks Timmy! I am having the job done by Rick Squire here in Utah. Rick is a well known tuner and former owner of STS Turbo (sold for huge $$). He is a master tuner and I am hoping for some significant gains. Currently I have high flow air (Air Ram) and Magna Flow cat back exhaust done on the Jeep so we shall see what the SC adds to the mix..
      1. FLIPmeOVER's Avatar
        FLIPmeOVER - 09-09-2014, 07:49 PM
        do we have a date on this?
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 09-10-2014, 12:54 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by FLIPmeOVER View Post
        do we have a date on this?
        Waiting for it to arrive from Magnuson... Hopefully soon!
      1. Rexx19's Avatar
        Rexx19 - 09-12-2014, 03:47 PM
        Ferrari, did you get the high alt pulley?
      1. ferrarifast's Avatar
        ferrarifast - 09-13-2014, 07:56 AM
        Rexx19,
        Yes I did purchase the high altitude pulley. My elevation here in Utah is 4400-4500 ft so I thought it to be the logical way to go..

        FF
      1. Yoinkers's Avatar
        Yoinkers - 09-18-2014, 01:22 PM
        When is this thing getting installed? And is Mag back to selling units? I thought they had a tune issue and pulled their units from the shelves.
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