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  • RIPP vs. Magnuson...SuperCharger Shootout!

    You knew it was coming. Its finally here. We are going to turn these to SuperCharger heavy weights loose against one another in a battery of tests. Lets get to know the competitors.



    Reigning Champ - Black Betty. She's and internet celebrity, been on the cutting edge of prototype gear for the last 2 years. She'll be representing RIPP SuperChargers in this all out throw down. She is a Rubicon Unlimited with 4.10 gearing and for the purposes of these tests, she will shed her 37'' KM2s in favor of BFG Kms 255/75r17. (stock Rubi tires)



    The Challenger - Sweet Pea / Pea Soup'd. Yes she's got two names, one from us, and the other from one of our readers. She's essentially brand new. 2013 JKUR all stock everything....Except her Magnuson SuperCharger.



    Whats the difference? Two routes to the same end. MORE POWER. its widely known that there is really no way to add punch to your JEEP JK without taking drastic measures. We have done the dyno testing on intakes and exhausts. The sound changes, but not much else. If you really want to unleash the beast that is your pentastar JK motor, we are paving the road for you.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: RIPP vs. Magnuson...SuperCharger Shootout! started by JeepLab View original post
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    1. Yoinkers's Avatar
      Yoinkers -
      That could be the nudge I need. Id make the looooong trip to RIPP if it was an option.
    1. 2me's Avatar
      2me -
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      I still like the looks of Magnuson's low end power range.
    1. Yoinkers's Avatar
      Yoinkers -
      Quote Originally Posted by 2me View Post
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      I still like the looks of Magnuson's low end power range.
      Im with this guy^^ but overall, the mag's power band is the sexiest, but these are "Glory" dyno passes, Im sure JL uses cold components, and lets everything cool before running again. What I'm concerned with is the heat soak that Im sure the mag suffers from.

      Dyno it once, and then hot lap it, then dyno it again, and the hot numbers will be significantly different from the cold ones. I think the RIPP style suffers from it less.

      That would be a good test. Hot superchargers. who loses more power?
    1. Timmy's Avatar
      Timmy -
      A buddy of mine just (last night) took this pic of a Jeep in Kalispell, MT. Looks to me like a RIPP SC in it? Nicely done, whoever you are... You have a butt-tone of mods on that sucker from what I can see. (The embedded photo here makes it hard to see the inner-cooler in the front, not sure if there is a way to make the photo bigger?)

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    1. Yoinkers's Avatar
      Yoinkers -
      photo boost!
    1. kevlar21's Avatar
      kevlar21 -
      There is a new tune being worked on, but it is not quite ready for release yet. Once my tuner gets it finished, we will work with the sales department to try and get it out to everyone, however, I don’t have an exact date on when it will be released.

      Simon Gale, Lead Tech
      Magnuson Products LLC.
      hi, first post...

      first of all thanks for this comparison! its really helping me in deciding on which one to get. im leaning toward the magnuson because of the torque curve. the only thing that has kept me from pulling the trigger is that people are saying that the tune has some issues, such as surging. anyways, i contacted magnuson about the issues (on about 7/11/14) and they said that they will have the tune perfected soon, but they didnt give me an exact date, or where to look for it to be posted. so just wonderin if anyone here or at magnuson has any info on the newest tune or when the surging issues are solved, please post here!
    1. kevlar21's Avatar
      kevlar21 -
      also, jeeplab, do you have any plans to install the 8 psi pulley? if so please post reviews or dyno or whatever!
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      We have the high altitude pulley for the Ripp unit in my garage. We are about to install that.

      We don't have the high altitude pulley for the mag. ill see about getting my hands on it.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Im hoping to have the high altitude pulley on the RIPP this weekend
    1. Timmy's Avatar
      Timmy -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
      Im hoping to have the high altitude pulley on the RIPP this weekend
      How much extra boost do you expect the high elevation (ugh, high _altitude_ even though altitude is for airplanes, elevation is for "earth") pulley to provide at your elevation? Does RIPP really support using this pulley at sea-level type elevations?
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
      How much extra boost do you expect the high elevation (ugh, high _altitude_ even though altitude is for airplanes, elevation is for "earth") pulley to provide at your elevation? Does RIPP really support using this pulley at sea-level type elevations?
      weather or not RIPP supports using it at sea level, im not sure.

      However, im at sea level. and Im expecting it to make around 12lbs of boost. (Betty is supposed to have about 8lbs boost now)
    1. Yoinkers's Avatar
      Yoinkers -
      Is the high altitude pulley going in this weekend?
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by kevlar21 View Post
      also, jeeplab, do you have any plans to install the 8 psi pulley? if so please post reviews or dyno or whatever!
      Magnuson contacted me today and is sending the high altitude pulley. We will install both RIPP an Mag and report back.
    1. 2k13jk's Avatar
      2k13jk -
      For all you people having problems with surging my ripp was surging slightly until i dug into the problem more a preset tune is only as good as the person writing the tune. You cant blame the companies for having one truck with a bad tune you have to remember every truck is different and runs differently. To really get your jeep running 100 percent install a wideband gauge so you can monitor your air fuel ratios which is critical to a forced induction motor and pay a local tuner to dial in the air fuels spark fuel delivery at every point in the rpm band so you dont detonate your motor under boost conditions and youll know 100 percent your truck is dialed in and can handle what youll throw at it
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by 2k13jk View Post
      For all you people having problems with surging my ripp was surging slightly until i dug into the problem more a preset tune is only as good as the person writing the tune. You cant blame the companies for having one truck with a bad tune you have to remember every truck is different and runs differently. To really get your jeep running 100 percent install a wideband gauge so you can monitor your air fuel ratios which is critical to a forced induction motor and pay a local tuner to dial in the air fuels spark fuel delivery at every point in the rpm band so you dont detonate your motor under boost conditions and youll know 100 percent your truck is dialed in and can handle what youll throw at it
      WELCOME NEW GUY!

      What does this cost?

      the guage and the time to dial it in?
    1. 2k13jk's Avatar
      2k13jk -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
      WELCOME NEW GUY!

      What does this cost?

      the guage and the time to dial it in?
      The gauge i bought was an aem wideband and boost built in one it cost about 325 with full wire harness everything needed to get it hooked up it automatically dials itself in and took about 2 hours to install
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      A wide band gauge is useless if you don't have the knowledge, skills, and tools to adjust the tune of your vehicle based on the gauge readings.

      How much does it cost to have a tuning shop dial in the tune for street driving?
    1. NOLAjeeper's Avatar
      NOLAjeeper -
      Ive got the AEM wideband gauge and AEM boost gauge that needs to be installed. (Purchased them from Dan from Prodigy when i purchased the stage 1 kit) The shop will be installing this as well when they install my stage 2 and get everything dialed in. Hopefully they can do this Tomorrow before i leave on tuesday for a week..
    1. 2k13jk's Avatar
      2k13jk -
      My tune was 650 my jeep has never been more solid thru out the power band no more surging or hesitation
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by 2k13jk View Post
      My tune was 650 my jeep has never been more solid thru out the power band no more surging or hesitation
      Cheap enough to consider, but really, the tune from the the manufacturer should sort out issues like surging.

      Your shop is probably pretty good. I wouldnt leave the truck with just anyone promising to tune it.

      Anyone reading this, check your shop's references.
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