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  • RIPP vs. Magnuson...SuperCharger Shootout!

    You knew it was coming. Its finally here. We are going to turn these to SuperCharger heavy weights loose against one another in a battery of tests. Lets get to know the competitors.



    Reigning Champ - Black Betty. She's and internet celebrity, been on the cutting edge of prototype gear for the last 2 years. She'll be representing RIPP SuperChargers in this all out throw down. She is a Rubicon Unlimited with 4.10 gearing and for the purposes of these tests, she will shed her 37'' KM2s in favor of BFG Kms 255/75r17. (stock Rubi tires)



    The Challenger - Sweet Pea / Pea Soup'd. Yes she's got two names, one from us, and the other from one of our readers. She's essentially brand new. 2013 JKUR all stock everything....Except her Magnuson SuperCharger.



    Whats the difference? Two routes to the same end. MORE POWER. its widely known that there is really no way to add punch to your JEEP JK without taking drastic measures. We have done the dyno testing on intakes and exhausts. The sound changes, but not much else. If you really want to unleash the beast that is your pentastar JK motor, we are paving the road for you.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: RIPP vs. Magnuson...SuperCharger Shootout! started by JeepLab View original post
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    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      Have many tunes have they put out for the manual?
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by gbaumann View Post
      I do experience some irregularity. It's not terrible. I too would hope it will get worked out in future tunes or perhaps through some tweaking to the bypass mechanism. I can't tell why it's happening. I don't feel like the throttle is surging as much as I feel like unwanted boost may be kicking in or current boost may be cutting out.
      Hmmmmmm. Its really odd, since the truck is basically at rest cruising. Im sure mag is on it tho. Its the only real blip we deal with.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Deola View Post
      Have many tunes have they put out for the manual?
      Tune update count -

      Magnuson 2 since Jan of 2014
      RIPP 10 since March of 2013
    1. gbaumann's Avatar
      gbaumann -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
      Hmmmmmm. Its really odd, since the truck is basically at rest cruising. Im sure mag is on it tho. Its the only real blip we deal with.
      Do you experience anything like the throttle "surge" it with the RIPP? Does the RIPP programming / Mag programming affect shifting differently? Truth be told, after a week I'm pretty much shifting in auto-man mode all the time. There is so much torque and to me it feels better to shift up a bit quicker and let the motor do its thing. It's also more comfortable for me to limit the drop from 5th to 4th when passing on the highway.

      I must say I went with Magnuson because I'm 46 years old. I'v have built several high performance GM small and big blocks over what seems like a lifetime. There is no way I would have anything other than a screw atop my motor. From the time I was a teenager the holy grail was a roots screw sitting through the hood. So for me, the choice was more out of plain preference than any belief that it's better or worse than a centrifugal unit. I only wish I had a big red plunger switch on my shifter to turn the blower on and off (along with a sawed off shotgun and a dog to ride the wasteland with me).

      Seriously though, the data you have collected as awesome!

      I will also say that I spent some time off road this week and my jeep is a completely different animal (and I mean ANIMAL)! I am now in search of any incline I can climb.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by gbaumann View Post
      Do you experience anything like the throttle "surge" it with the RIPP? Does the RIPP programming / Mag programming affect shifting differently? Truth be told, after a week I'm pretty much shifting in auto-man mode all the time. There is so much torque and to me it feels better to shift up a bit quicker and let the motor do its thing. It's also more comfortable for me to limit the drop from 5th to 4th when passing on the highway.

      I must say I went with Magnuson because I'm 46 years old. I'v have built several high performance GM small and big blocks over what seems like a lifetime. There is no way I would have anything other than a screw atop my motor. From the time I was a teenager the holy grail was a roots screw sitting through the hood. So for me, the choice was more out of plain preference than any belief that it's better or worse than a centrifugal unit. I only wish I had a big red plunger switch on my shifter to turn the blower on and off (along with a sawed off shotgun and a dog to ride the wasteland with me).

      Seriously though, the data you have collected as awesome!

      I will also say that I spent some time off road this week and my jeep is a completely different animal (and I mean ANIMAL)! I am now in search of any incline I can climb.
      The young guys who read this wont get the Road Warrior / Mad Max references, I do. and when you think screw type SC, my mind goes right there. (turbo interceptor) Classic.

      1- the surge im talking about with the mag is when cruising on the highway, power will start and stop as if you are touching the gas pedal, when your not. The RIPP dosent do that.

      2- Differences in shifting - I honestly have no idea, all our trucks are Manual trans. My brain says regardless of the tune or the SC the tranny is unchanged and shift points are unchanged (im really not sure)

      The mag is great down low, there are pros and cons to each that really all comes down to preference. Black Betty whistles like an F-16, Sweet Pea shrieks. The winner in a race will come down to the driver, and when it comes to off road capability, that will also come down to the driver.

      the other Ross, from RIPP has driven Black Betty with me in the passenger seat, and has scared me to death. She is faster than my driving skill. He can chirp my 37s in 3rd gear.
    1. gbaumann's Avatar
      gbaumann -
      I get the same symptom. Do Magnuson and RIPP send new tunes automatically?
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by gbaumann View Post
      I get the same symptom. Do Magnuson and RIPP send new tunes automatically?
      that would be smart, that they have a email list where you could be surprised with a new tune.... i dont think either works that way.
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      With the new custom pre-loaded InTune that RIPP and Prodigy are using, it seems they could at least send out an email to inform everyone that a new tune is available. The InTune setup will automatically download updates simply by connecting to a computer with internet access.
    1. gbaumann's Avatar
      gbaumann -
      OK, I'll keep in touch with Magnuson for any updates and, of course, check here for any new news!
    1. RIPPMODS's Avatar
      RIPPMODS -
      Quote Originally Posted by gbaumann View Post
      OK, I'll keep in touch with Magnuson for any updates and, of course, check here for any new news!
      An Email list isn't compiled and databased, more for the reason of most people do not Opt in, and just plain privacy concerns. We do make general announcements on all major forums and all our social media when a new tune is available. Like taking medicine, it wont be administered until asked for.

      RIPP
    1. gbaumann's Avatar
      gbaumann -
      Quote Originally Posted by RIPPMODS View Post
      An Email list isn't compiled and databased, more for the reason of most people do not Opt in, and just plain privacy concerns. We do make general announcements on all major forums and all our social media when a new tune is available. Like taking medicine, it wont be administered until asked for.

      RIPP
      Have I done something wrong in this forum? I posted my experiences in a discussion thread comparing two supercharger systems. I asked some questions about the two systems being compared to generate further discussion and perhaps some more information that readers could use when comparing them. I also asked about some specific issues related to the system I purchased.

      Your reply implies that I'm inappropriately asking whether the two companies making the superchargers support their products with updates. I honestly and truly have no idea how your companies work. I don't mean to be naive but perhaps I am misreading your analogy because it seems negative to accept around $6,000 from someone and then leave them with a sick condition until they ask for "medicine."

      RIPP vs. Magnuson isn't about only a line on a dyno chart. The comparison also includes product support, customer service, ease of install, overall performance, dyno results, general coolness factor (which I think RIPP wins hands down!) and the other items Jeeplab writes about.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by gbaumann View Post
      Have I done something wrong in this forum? I posted my experiences in a discussion thread comparing two supercharger systems. I asked some questions about the two systems being compared to generate further discussion and perhaps some more information that readers could use when comparing them. I also asked about some specific issues related to the system I purchased.

      Your reply implies that I'm inappropriately asking whether the two companies making the superchargers support their products with updates. I honestly and truly have no idea how your companies work. I don't mean to be naive but perhaps I am misreading your analogy because it seems negative to accept around $6,000 from someone and then leave them with a sick condition until they ask for "medicine."

      RIPP vs. Magnuson isn't about only a line on a dyno chart. The comparison also includes product support, customer service, ease of install, overall performance, dyno results, general coolness factor (which I think RIPP wins hands down!) and the other items Jeeplab writes about.
      ANSWER: You have done nothing wrong in this forum.

      Automatic updates by email would be key for engine mods that require evolving tunes to smooth out wrinkles or just overall improve things. Keeping up with social media is a pain to some, myself included. It would be an excellent surprise if you were just logging into your email like normal and get surprised with a notice that RIPP or Mag or whoever has come up with a new version. Our iPhones do it.

      Not so fast.

      I think its a more in-depth process to turn over a tune however. They take your tune, and have to use it to generate a new tune, so my understanding is that RIPP can't just make a tune file and then email blast it to their thousands of drivers. This is a case where I think Diablo needs to get with the program as they are the linch pin for all of these power mod companies.

      RIPP and Mag pay Diablo THOUSANDS to generate tunes and files. The power companies push diablo products with their own and it seems that if there was a way to simplify updates or create universal files, that would come from diablo.

      Perhaps a tune that works in progression, so they always have the "last tune written"

      The other side of that is chrysler, and my original tune is different from the next truck, So its a rubix cube that chrysler does not want us to figure out.
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      Quote Originally Posted by gbaumann View Post
      Have I done something wrong in this forum? I posted my experiences in a discussion thread comparing two supercharger systems. I asked some questions about the two systems being compared to generate further discussion and perhaps some more information that readers could use when comparing them. I also asked about some specific issues related to the system I purchased.

      Your reply implies that I'm inappropriately asking whether the two companies making the superchargers support their products with updates. I honestly and truly have no idea how your companies work. I don't mean to be naive but perhaps I am misreading your analogy because it seems negative to accept around $6,000 from someone and then leave them with a sick condition until they ask for "medicine."

      RIPP vs. Magnuson isn't about only a line on a dyno chart. The comparison also includes product support, customer service, ease of install, overall performance, dyno results, general coolness factor (which I think RIPP wins hands down!) and the other items Jeeplab writes about.
      I agree with your outlook, I also see where jeep labs response is correct. I don't think social media is an adequate outlet for that kind of info disperssment as things can be easily missed as we don't all constantly monitor those sites ( especially if we so t know to) seems to be the easy way out.
    1. RIPPMODS's Avatar
      RIPPMODS -
      Have I done something wrong in this forum? I posted my experiences in a discussion thread comparing two supercharger systems. I asked some questions about the two systems being compared to generate further discussion and perhaps some more information that readers could use when comparing them. I also asked about some specific issues related to the system I purchased.

      Your reply implies that I'm inappropriately asking whether the two companies making the superchargers support their products with updates. I honestly and truly have no idea how your companies work. I don't mean to be naive but perhaps I am misreading your analogy because it seems negative to accept around $6,000 from someone and then leave them with a sick condition until they ask for "medicine."

      RIPP vs. Magnuson isn't about only a line on a dyno chart. The comparison also includes product support, customer service, ease of install, overall performance, dyno results, general coolness factor (which I think RIPP wins hands down!) and the other items Jeeplab writes about.
      This is my fault for using a poor analogy. I apologize for coming across that way. We constantly try to update and provide the best product possible. In the matter of emailing notifications, we will re-examine the process of keeping an up to date database as per your suggestion. I truly didn't mean to put you on defense with my answer and we always try to provide the best information to all jeepers, whether they have our products or not. I apologize again, and no, you didn't say anything wrong at all.
    1. DHewes's Avatar
      DHewes -
      RIPP - Take a look at Constant Contact or Salesforce.com. Both automate the process, can be fully customized, help with many other business CRM tasks, comply with the double opt-in/opt-out requirements of the CAN-SPAM Act and cost about 1/2 as much as a single turbo kit per year.
    1. gbaumann's Avatar
      gbaumann -
      Quote Originally Posted by DHewes View Post
      RIPP - Take a look at Constant Contact or Salesforce.com. Both automate the process, can be fully customized, help with many other business CRM tasks, comply with the double opt-in/opt-out requirements of the CAN-SPAM Act and cost about 1/2 as much as a single turbo kit per year.
      No worries and thanks for responding. In the end I'm loving having a supercharged jeep! I've been re-learning how to drive for the last several weeks due to the big differences in characteristics. More importantly I had a somewhat cathartic moment last week during a business trip to Las Vegas. Each year I attend a large retail real estate convention for four or five days. This year I stood on the sixty-second floor of the Encore Hotel looking out beyond the "strip" to the desert and hills. All I could think of is how much I wanted to be out there! Next year (if not sooner), I'll be putting the jeep on a car carrier and shipping it!
    1. gbaumann's Avatar
      gbaumann -
      Hi all. I received a call today from a 2014 JKU owner that also installed the Magnuson supercharger. He's having the surging issue too and mentioned that he was expecting a new tune next week from Magnuson. I contact Simon at Magnuson (great guy - always quick to respond and super helpful). Here's what I learned:

      There is a new tune being worked on, but it is not quite ready for release yet. Once my tuner gets it finished, we will work with the sales department to try and get it out to everyone, however, I don’t have an exact date on when it will be released.

      Simon Gale, Lead Tech
      Magnuson Products LLC.
    1. Timmy's Avatar
      Timmy -
      JeepLab (or anyone)

      I had read another forum a post from the owner of RIPP (this was posted May of 2012) that he had a program where anyone could get a RIPP SC professionally installed for $250 (not the cost of the SC, just the install.) Have you ever heard of this? I'm guessing posted in 2012 meant 3.8L engine. Any chance this is true for a 3.6L engine?

      http://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74375

      "Ours bolts on in a few hours, adds 100 more real wheel HP and 90 more ft/lbs of torque - (real world numbers at the wheels through 35-37" tires) and 2-4more MPG (as reported though many end users). Ours systems have been as low as 24 below Zero in Alaska/Canada and in the high heat desert 130 + degrees jumping dunes...

      Besides - we have a New low price $4899.95 and now ANY AUTHORIZED DEALER WILL install our system for just $250.00...

      RIPP"
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
      JeepLab (or anyone)

      I had read another forum a post from the owner of RIPP (this was posted May of 2012) that he had a program where anyone could get a RIPP SC professionally installed for $250 (not the cost of the SC, just the install.) Have you ever heard of this? I'm guessing posted in 2012 meant 3.8L engine. Any chance this is true for a 3.6L engine?

      http://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74375

      "Ours bolts on in a few hours, adds 100 more real wheel HP and 90 more ft/lbs of torque - (real world numbers at the wheels through 35-37" tires) and 2-4more MPG (as reported though many end users). Ours systems have been as low as 24 below Zero in Alaska/Canada and in the high heat desert 130 + degrees jumping dunes...

      Besides - we have a New low price $4899.95 and now ANY AUTHORIZED DEALER WILL install our system for just $250.00...

      RIPP"
      The authorized installer price for my Dads 2013 was $1,000. 00, and they made several errors, then even put a bolt through the ac compressor. Ripp said not to use them again, not sure if they are on their list still. ORI in Winchester VA
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
      JeepLab (or anyone)

      I had read another forum a post from the owner of RIPP (this was posted May of 2012) that he had a program where anyone could get a RIPP SC professionally installed for $250 (not the cost of the SC, just the install.) Have you ever heard of this? I'm guessing posted in 2012 meant 3.8L engine. Any chance this is true for a 3.6L engine?

      http://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74375

      "Ours bolts on in a few hours, adds 100 more real wheel HP and 90 more ft/lbs of torque - (real world numbers at the wheels through 35-37" tires) and 2-4more MPG (as reported though many end users). Ours systems have been as low as 24 below Zero in Alaska/Canada and in the high heat desert 130 + degrees jumping dunes...

      Besides - we have a New low price $4899.95 and now ANY AUTHORIZED DEALER WILL install our system for just $250.00...

      RIPP"
      ive never heard of it, but it would be a good way to sell kits. Lowers the total cost AND you know its in right. It could be the difference in buying an SC at all.
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