Close

  • OMG...Prodigy...TURBO!

    • OMG...Prodigy...TURBO!

      by
      JeepLab
      Published on 02-18-2014 06:07 PM
      251 Comments
      Just got the news..... Prodigy wants to throw its hat in the ring with the two killer superchargers that we are testing head to head right now. To give you an idea of what that means, Prodigy's turbo kit for the 3.8 Jeep wrangler engine made as much power as the Supercharged Pentastars make....on paper.

      Here is the dyno chart they post on their website. 350 wheel horse power, and 400 torque. Sounds too good to be true.



      A big note with RIPP and Magnuson, the supercharger gurus, is drivability. Big power is easy, just cram more air in, but does the truck drive correctly on and off road? We are going to find out.

      Particularly off road, where you don't want BURSTS of power. You want an even, predictable gathering of power as you creep and crawl thru difficult terrain. You don't want to be hanging off a rock and have a power burst, it could be catastrophic. Also, the components between the engine and the ground will all be under more strain. So throttle response is paramount.

      Can these guys get a beast like this under control? We'll tell you.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: OMG...Prodigy...TURBO! started by JeepLab View original post
      Comments 251 Comments
      1. GizmoGoat's Avatar
        GizmoGoat - 04-05-2014, 02:04 PM
        For the Auto guys, a concern of mine is under hood temps without the intercooler kit.? I'm of the opinion that intercooler will vital to the JK.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-05-2014, 03:13 PM
        I'd be willing to bet that the stage 1 kit is setup with lower boost to be safe without the intercooler. It's only 5 psi boost. I predict 8+ psi for stage 2.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-05-2014, 03:19 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by GizmoGoat View Post
        For the Auto guys, a concern of mine is under hood temps without the intercooler kit.? I'm of the opinion that intercooler will vital to the JK.
        Im an intercooler fan also... They look soooooo cool in the grill.

        Screams - "Not Stock"

        im less concerned about underhood temps, as the prodigy guys are working out custom blankets for the new unit.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-05-2014, 04:58 PM
        Btw. There was no visit to the drag strip yesterday. That may happen late next week now after they have a kit installed on a manual transmission jeep. The plan plan is to install stage 1 on it, get results, then upgrade to stage 2 and get results again.


        JeepLab: are you on track to install on the 12th, or is it up in the air still?
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-05-2014, 05:37 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        Btw. There was no visit to the drag strip yesterday. That may happen late next week now after they have a kit installed on a manual transmission jeep. The plan plan is to install stage 1 on it, get results, then upgrade to stage 2 and get results again.


        JeepLab: are you on track to install on the 12th, or is it up in the air still?
        Nothing is set until the box arrives.

        Also, its good to note, you do NOT want to rush a power mod like this one. The prodigy guys would be CRAZY to release before they are ready. The people with the first units will be the ones that the next thousand are listening to about power gain, drive ability, the pentastar's durability with the heat and boost created by this monster.

        Weather or not these things sell, will depend on those people's experiences.

        We know these guys know what they are doing, and we know they made huge power with the 3.8 which was a pig on its best day, so the cards are stacked that this mod will be groundbreaking, but rushing it is a mistake.
      1. Rexx19's Avatar
        Rexx19 - 04-05-2014, 05:47 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        Nothing is set until the box arrives.

        Also, its good to note, you do NOT want to rush a power mod like this one. The prodigy guys would be CRAZY to release before they are ready. The people with the first units will be the ones that the next thousand are listening to about power gain, drive ability, the pentastar's durability with the heat and boost created by this monster.

        Weather or not these things sell, will depend on those people's experiences.

        We know these guys know what they are doing, and we know they made huge power with the 3.8 which was a pig on its best day, so the cards are stacked that this mod will be groundbreaking, but rushing it is a mistake.
        Mistake is right.

        If these guys put out a unit that damages trucks, or melts something vital in the engine bay, they will be out of business. No one knows that better than the guys at prodigy, and Ripp and Magnuson. They have to double check and triple check, and then beat on it like no one who buys it will ever do.

        The have to be sure. The alternative is a catastrophe.

        We want it now, (im personally chomping at the bit), But as much as I want it now, and to see the testing and install, I also want it good as this is a mod that may find its way into my garage.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-05-2014, 07:38 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        Nothing is set until the box arrives.
        Has the box begun its journey yet? Based on what you posted on Thursday, I would have expected it to be shipped out yesterday (unless there were other components aside from the pipes that are not ready to box/ship yet):

        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        our unit is in production right now and as soon as the pipes cool, its going into a box to ship.
      1. GizmoGoat's Avatar
        GizmoGoat - 04-06-2014, 10:39 AM
        I agree with the rest of you that Prodigy should by no means rush this kit.
        Ross- Do you know where Ripp mounts or relocates the transmission cooler on the 3.6 Autos?
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-06-2014, 03:03 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by GizmoGoat View Post
        I agree with the rest of you that Prodigy should by no means rush this kit.
        Ross- Do you know where Ripp mounts or relocates the transmission cooler on the 3.6 Autos?
        All our test trucks are manual trans. I sent a text, so ill let you know when i get an answer.
      1. Jkfletch7's Avatar
        Jkfletch7 - 04-06-2014, 08:08 PM
        Do we know anything about the pricing of stage 1 yet?
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-06-2014, 10:00 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by Jkfletch7 View Post
        Do we know anything about the pricing of stage 1 yet?
        it should be around 6k
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-07-2014, 03:41 PM
        We are probably looking at the 19th to install the turbo. I just talked to dan about their own testing schedule and its pretty crazy.

        They want to install stage one, test, dyno, then stage 2, test, and dyno.

        Their plate is full.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-07-2014, 05:03 PM
        How extensive is this "testing" that they'll be doing? At this point I expect they would have been tuning all along with each iteration of prototype and would hope that the tune itself should be solid and thoroughly tested. If they are just doing final sanity-check testing and getting official dyno results, then it seems possible that they could have official results to release for stage 1 and 2 on the manual by the weekend (but not soon enough to fly out for the JeepLab install on the 12th).

        Are they waiting for final stage 2 testing on their jeep before shipping your kit out?

        Is there a planned date for pricing info, kit contents, etc., to become available? They said they would start taking pre-orders this week, so either pricing and other details have to come out soon, or the pre-ordering will have to be delayed.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-07-2014, 05:50 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        How extensive is this "testing" that they'll be doing? At this point I expect they would have been tuning all along with each iteration of prototype and would hope that the tune itself should be solid and thoroughly tested. If they are just doing final sanity-check testing and getting official dyno results, then it seems possible that they could have official results to release for stage 1 and 2 on the manual by the weekend (but not soon enough to fly out for the JeepLab install on the 12th).

        Are they waiting for final stage 2 testing on their jeep before shipping your kit out?

        Is there a planned date for pricing info, kit contents, etc., to become available? They said they would start taking pre-orders this week, so either pricing and other details have to come out soon, or the pre-ordering will have to be delayed.
        Im expecting the box next week with enough time to do an unboxing video and take a bunch of pics of the parts. Jesse will also want to see the instructions as its his powertrain warranty that we will be dropping in the paper shredder....LOL
      1. GizmoGoat's Avatar
        GizmoGoat - 04-08-2014, 10:01 AM
        So close yet so far. If I'd have to guess on a official time of release, I would have to say not for another month or two.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-08-2014, 01:09 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by GizmoGoat View Post
        So close yet so far. If I'd have to guess on a official time of release, I would have to say not for another month or two.
        When we see the unit in the box, I'll be able to tell you about how far out I think it really is. If the box is perfectly organized and the instructions are clear, its going to be quick.

        If its unclear, it will be longer. Ill post pics as soon as I can. (maybe with a prediction)
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-08-2014, 04:58 PM
        Huh huh, huh huh... he said "unit"...

      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-09-2014, 10:28 AM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        Huh huh, huh huh... he said "unit"...

        This is pretty funny. Pickles is usually such an ice cold machine of facts and figures. Good to see a joke. Bravo Pickles!
      1. Yoinkers's Avatar
        Yoinkers - 04-09-2014, 07:59 PM
        Turbo, Turbo, TURBO!
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-09-2014, 09:48 PM
        Turbo for my bunghole?

        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        Pickles is usually such an ice cold machine of facts and figures.
        This is what happens when I run out of facts and figures to talk about. I thrive on data. I think I'm related to this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj-qBUWOYfE
      Page 8 of 13 FirstFirst ... 678910 ... LastLast
      Untitled Document