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  • OMG...Prodigy...TURBO!

    Just got the news..... Prodigy wants to throw its hat in the ring with the two killer superchargers that we are testing head to head right now. To give you an idea of what that means, Prodigy's turbo kit for the 3.8 Jeep wrangler engine made as much power as the Supercharged Pentastars make....on paper.

    Here is the dyno chart they post on their website. 350 wheel horse power, and 400 torque. Sounds too good to be true.



    A big note with RIPP and Magnuson, the supercharger gurus, is drivability. Big power is easy, just cram more air in, but does the truck drive correctly on and off road? We are going to find out.

    Particularly off road, where you don't want BURSTS of power. You want an even, predictable gathering of power as you creep and crawl thru difficult terrain. You don't want to be hanging off a rock and have a power burst, it could be catastrophic. Also, the components between the engine and the ground will all be under more strain. So throttle response is paramount.

    Can these guys get a beast like this under control? We'll tell you.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: OMG...Prodigy...TURBO! started by JeepLab View original post
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    1. GizmoGoat's Avatar
      GizmoGoat -
      Pickles- do you know if the AFE Y-pipe is compatible with the 3.6 turbo kit?
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      I think it's safe to say that the AFE Y-pipe will be incompatible. That entire section of the stock exhaust will be replaced with the turbo kit. It has its own 2-into-1 pipie heading up toward the turbo in front of the engine. Then a single pipe heads down from the turbo and back to connect with the remainder of the stock exhaust.

      I haven't seen how the pipes are routed in the 3.6 kit yet, but I think it will be along the same lines as the 3.8 kit pictured here:

    1. GizmoGoat's Avatar
      GizmoGoat -
      Ok thanks! Just trying to plan ahead. I also am going to pull the trigger on this kit! I can't wait! I talked to prodogy yesterday and they gave me a ETA of 3-4 weeks. I was leaning toward the maggy but feel the turbo better suits my needs.
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      I sure hope they announce all the details sooner than 3-4 weeks!

      Ross, are you withholding any good info?

      It's taking longer than I expected for any official info to start coming out. I've emailed a couple questions about the lack of BOV and about the anti-surge compressor, but I've gotten no responses at all. It doesn't really seem worth bothering them with a phone call about these things when all the basic details of the kit haven't even been announced yet.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
      I sure hope they announce all the details sooner than 3-4 weeks!

      Ross, are you withholding any good info?

      It's taking longer than I expected for any official info to start coming out. I've emailed a couple questions about the lack of BOV and about the anti-surge compressor, but I've gotten no responses at all. It doesn't really seem worth bothering them with a phone call about these things when all the basic details of the kit haven't even been announced yet.
      I dont have any more info than you at this point.

      I thought the kit being available to the public so fast was optimistic when they told me they wouldn't release pics, and hadn't been complete with the mock up to mass produce the pipes required.

      This stuff has to be right when they sell it, so rushing it at this point when both superchargers are already in the market does not make sense.

      The plan is good, and should work fine, but they have to put in the time and effort to make sure an idiot can install it.

      That means good pictures and instructions that can be difficult for people who know turbos and engines as well as these guys do. Their advanced brains become an obstacle when writing instructions, because they already know so much, it easy to assume that the standard person might know the basics, when the standard person might not.

      It all takes time to do it right. As soon as they are confident that its ready...
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Ok... things are starting to cook....
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      You're such a tease...
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      I got the message after they were closed today...

      I need to get a confirmation on some point before spilling the beans. Ill spill them tomorrow.
    1. Snarf77's Avatar
      Snarf77 -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
      I got the message after they were closed today...

      I need to get a confirmation on some point before spilling the beans. Ill spill them tomorrow.
      I believe its officially tomorrow! . But seriously..get your ducks in a row before firing.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Snarf77 View Post
      I believe its officially tomorrow! . But seriously..get your ducks in a row before firing.
      good advice.

      still waiting on confirmation
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      I should have confirmation on on a Turbo shipping date next monday.
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      That was quite anti-climactic. Is that all the beans you have to spill?
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      It really was...

      Id gotten an email that suggested that the prodigy guys might come here to do the install on camera with us.

      That was what I was trying to confirm. As of now Im not sure whats happening as far as weather they are coming to NJ, but the part that was cleared up is that I should expect a shipping date early next week.
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      That could work out nicely if they were there for the install, especially if they observe more than help. It would be like usability testing, where they could make note of any confusion/uncertainty you run into during the install and use it to improve their instructions. It would also be nice to have them right there to directly discuss the various concerns that have come up (under-hood heat, hot-side of the turbo so close to plastic parts, etc), and any other questions you come up with during the install and initial test drives.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
      That could work out nicely if they were there for the install, especially if they observe more than help. It would be like usability testing, where they could make note of any confusion/uncertainty you run into during the install and use it to improve their instructions. It would also be nice to have them right there to directly discuss the various concerns that have come up (under-hood heat, hot-side of the turbo so close to plastic parts, etc), and any other questions you come up with during the install and initial test drives.
      agreed. It would be excellent to have them here with us. I was shocked that it was even a possibility. They are trying to crank out these kits as fast as they can, to take the time to work a FLIGHT into that schedule would be incredible.

      Even if they don't end up here with us, we will be using the instructions from a rookie point of view, and if there is anything we find to be unclear or worthy or retooling, we will make them a list. We do that for all our installs.
    1. Pznivy's Avatar
      Pznivy -
      This is finally happening....
    1. Snarf77's Avatar
      Snarf77 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pznivy View Post
      This is finally happening....
      I, for one, hope they make it out in-person. It would give them a massive head start, potentially saving weeks or even months of back and forth with early consumers with unanticipated install issues. New photos for updated instructions, clarifications on hard to understand portions, an install "video" perhaps for youtube (one of the most useful things EVER) that everyone would refer to, etc.

      That being said, it would be a huge effort for them to come out.

      *fingers crossed*
    1. Yoinkers's Avatar
      Yoinkers -
      When this does actually happen, you guys should block non-members from the turbo content.

      Make some of these lurkers make accounts and get in the game... This site has soooo many "silent watchers".

      Get onboard EVERYONE!
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      That would be about as effective as news websites that require an account to read their articles. Depending on how they block access, I simply hack around it, or just go somewhere else

      There's really no reason to block non-members from viewing content, unless the cost of bandwidth is prohibitive. Viewers generate ad revenue, regardless of whether they are logged-in. Non-member viewers that like what they see spread the word to others that may become contributing members, or at least more ad-revenue-generating viewers.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Yoinkers View Post
      When this does actually happen, you guys should block non-members from the turbo content.

      Make some of these lurkers make accounts and get in the game... This site has soooo many "silent watchers".

      Get onboard EVERYONE!
      We would NEVER block anyone. If they have something to say they'll get in and say it. If they like to read thats cool.

      All forums have this sort of relationship. The content is posted by few but read by many.

      Im just glad they are watching. (silent or not)
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