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    • OMG...Prodigy...TURBO!

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      JeepLab
      Published on 02-18-2014 06:07 PM
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      Just got the news..... Prodigy wants to throw its hat in the ring with the two killer superchargers that we are testing head to head right now. To give you an idea of what that means, Prodigy's turbo kit for the 3.8 Jeep wrangler engine made as much power as the Supercharged Pentastars make....on paper.

      Here is the dyno chart they post on their website. 350 wheel horse power, and 400 torque. Sounds too good to be true.



      A big note with RIPP and Magnuson, the supercharger gurus, is drivability. Big power is easy, just cram more air in, but does the truck drive correctly on and off road? We are going to find out.

      Particularly off road, where you don't want BURSTS of power. You want an even, predictable gathering of power as you creep and crawl thru difficult terrain. You don't want to be hanging off a rock and have a power burst, it could be catastrophic. Also, the components between the engine and the ground will all be under more strain. So throttle response is paramount.

      Can these guys get a beast like this under control? We'll tell you.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: OMG...Prodigy...TURBO! started by JeepLab View original post
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      1. STRAC's Avatar
        STRAC - 03-26-2014, 05:54 PM
        Well- this thread got me to sign up when I found it yesterday...and could be the deciding factor in getting rid of my built Ram 5500 on 43's for another Jeep (nothing to haul anymore)

        Sold my '08 JKU Rubicon with 5.7 hemi and full AEV kit last fall (too many rigs and still had to haul), but I miss it big time. Drove a couple new 2drs with the 3.6, they were ok (all stock)- but nothing like the hemi.

        These results just might nudge me back into a JK: this time 2 dr, light(ish), stretched and low COG (LOVE the Vengeance build)...factoring in the cost of a hemi or LS swap is getting (way) up there, turbo or SC on a 3.6 might just make it more doable.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 03-26-2014, 06:04 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by STRAC View Post
        Well- this thread got me to sign up when I found it yesterday...and could be the deciding factor in getting rid of my built Ram 5500 on 43's for another Jeep (nothing to haul anymore)

        Sold my '08 JKU Rubicon with 5.7 hemi and full AEV kit last fall (too many rigs and still had to haul), but I miss it big time. Drove a couple new 2drs with the 3.6, they were ok (all stock)- but nothing like the hemi.

        These results just might nudge me back into a JK: this time 2 dr, light(ish), stretched and low COG (LOVE the Vengeance build)...factoring in the cost of a hemi or LS swap is getting (way) up there, turbo or SC on a 3.6 might just make it more doable.
        FIRST POST!

        Welcome STRAC!

        Sounds like your a veteran jeeper as a hemi swap is still the most invasive thing you can do to your rig. Excellent to have you.

        Give us a pic of your Ram 5500, with 43s it sounds monstrous.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 03-26-2014, 06:09 PM
        If anyone is wondering, and not to hijack my own thread...

        this is the vengeance build.

        Attachment 572

        Now back to your regularly scheduled TURBO discussion
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 03-27-2014, 03:40 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        Now back to your regularly scheduled TURBO discussion
        Just as soon as you give us something to discuss...

        Don't you have any connections down in Florida that you could send in to stake out Prodigy's shop?
      1. STRAC's Avatar
        STRAC - 03-27-2014, 05:57 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        FIRST POST!

        Welcome STRAC!

        Sounds like your a veteran jeeper as a hemi swap is still the most invasive thing you can do to your rig. Excellent to have you.

        Give us a pic of your Ram 5500, with 43s it sounds monstrous.
        Don't want to hijack (more, but since there won't be any TURBO news till next week...), here is my build thread on pirate: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-r...500-build.html

        If the link is off base just let me know and I'll delete (just as fast as with my EGR & DPF! )

        I really want to see the results of this turbo on a 3.6...
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 03-27-2014, 08:03 PM
        I came across the best argument I've seen so far for not installing a Prodigy turbo kit:

        "The Pentastar motor, as much as I like the one in my wife's Jeep, does not feel like the kind of motor that would like a turbo strapped to it."
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 03-27-2014, 08:15 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        I came across the best argument I've seen so far for not installing a Prodigy turbo kit:

        "The Pentastar motor, as much as I like the one in my wife's Jeep, does not feel like the kind of motor that would like a turbo strapped to it."
        This is priceless.

        must be a mechanic.

        My pentastar LOVES its SC. I cant imagine a pentastar that would like a turbo.
      1. Snarf77's Avatar
        Snarf77 - 03-27-2014, 08:50 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        This is priceless.

        must be a mechanic.

        My pentastar LOVES its SC. I cant imagine a pentastar that would like a turbo.
        My pentastar loves long walks on the beach, cats, and romantic dinners. Oh...and turbos.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 03-31-2014, 04:23 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        I should have confirmation on on a Turbo shipping date next monday.
        Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-01-2014, 06:44 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
        Hang in there. Im following up...
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-02-2014, 08:55 AM
        Here's what I got back-

        REAL close, really! Dyno testing tomorrow at 6 pm. 1/4 mile at PBIR on Friday. We'll have pictures and video to release this week. Tentative plan for ship to you next week.
        I'll update you tomorrow night.
        Will start accepting pre-orders next week. Pipes finalized and going into production later this week.
      1. Jkfletch7's Avatar
        Jkfletch7 - 04-02-2014, 11:08 AM
        Hey guys first post! Here's an email I just got
        "We’ve completed the Turbo Kit for the 2012 3.6L Pentastar engine. Production is now underway and we are accepting orders. Tonight on our website I will be posting the results of our Dyno testing.
        Full introduction will be tomorrow on our website!
        Stay tuned………

        Dan Marra
        Vice President
        Prodigy Performance, LLC
        dan@prodigyperformance.com
        561.676.3123"
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-02-2014, 11:57 AM
        Quote Originally Posted by Jkfletch7 View Post
        Hey guys first post! Here's an email I just got
        "We’ve completed the Turbo Kit for the 2012 3.6L Pentastar engine. Production is now underway and we are accepting orders. Tonight on our website I will be posting the results of our Dyno testing.
        Full introduction will be tomorrow on our website!
        Stay tuned………

        Dan Marra
        Vice President
        Prodigy Performance, LLC
        dan@prodigyperformance.com
        561.676.3123"
        HEY NEW GUY! WELCOME!
        add yourself to the list of us waiting for this monster to arrive. As soon as it does, this thread will be loaded with pics and opinions of their plan to add this un-godly amount of power to our pentastars.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-02-2014, 12:43 PM
      1. Snarf77's Avatar
        Snarf77 - 04-02-2014, 01:26 PM
        I hope that along with the results of the dyno testing, they do a video of the 1/4 mile run and associated times Friday. Super exciting.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-02-2014, 01:47 PM
        "We are introducing the Stage 1 Turbo Kit for 3.6L Pentastar first. This is the base turbo kit.
        We will offer upgrade components to make it a Stage 2 next. This will be the intercooler kit.
        Finally, the Stage 3 Turbo will include the boost kit to take it to the top.
        Ceramic coating is something we will look at after product introduction.
        Turbo blankets with Prodigy logo are being manufactured now.
        Polished and drilled housing on the turbo unit will be an option. The photos we’ll release tomorrow will have the polished housing, but that will not be in the basic Stage 1,2, or 3 offering."
      1. Snarf77's Avatar
        Snarf77 - 04-02-2014, 02:09 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        "We are introducing the Stage 1 Turbo Kit for 3.6L Pentastar first. This is the base turbo kit.
        We will offer upgrade components to make it a Stage 2 next. This will be the intercooler kit.
        Finally, the Stage 3 Turbo will include the boost kit to take it to the top.
        Ceramic coating is something we will look at after product introduction.
        Turbo blankets with Prodigy logo are being manufactured now.
        Polished and drilled housing on the turbo unit will be an option. The photos we’ll release tomorrow will have the polished housing, but that will not be in the basic Stage 1,2, or 3 offering."
        Seems like several stages of expensive! I was hoping the intercooler would be part of the stage 1 but I come from a relative state of ignorance of such things. The intercooler definitely seems worthwhile.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-02-2014, 02:29 PM
        "With the numbers we expect to see tonight, Stage 1 is going to make a lot of people happy!"

        Maybe the intercooler won't be so necessary? Although, I'm of the opinion that any amount of power that can be had without major engine work is necessary to have, because why not?
      1. GizmoGoat's Avatar
        GizmoGoat - 04-02-2014, 02:41 PM
        I wonder how soon after release will the intercooler kit be avaiable?
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-02-2014, 02:53 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by GizmoGoat View Post
        I wonder how soon after release will the intercooler kit be avaiable?
        really at this point I wouldnt venture to guess. might be quick once they start laying out this first stage....
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