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    • OMG...Prodigy...TURBO!

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      JeepLab
      Published on 02-18-2014 06:07 PM
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      Just got the news..... Prodigy wants to throw its hat in the ring with the two killer superchargers that we are testing head to head right now. To give you an idea of what that means, Prodigy's turbo kit for the 3.8 Jeep wrangler engine made as much power as the Supercharged Pentastars make....on paper.

      Here is the dyno chart they post on their website. 350 wheel horse power, and 400 torque. Sounds too good to be true.



      A big note with RIPP and Magnuson, the supercharger gurus, is drivability. Big power is easy, just cram more air in, but does the truck drive correctly on and off road? We are going to find out.

      Particularly off road, where you don't want BURSTS of power. You want an even, predictable gathering of power as you creep and crawl thru difficult terrain. You don't want to be hanging off a rock and have a power burst, it could be catastrophic. Also, the components between the engine and the ground will all be under more strain. So throttle response is paramount.

      Can these guys get a beast like this under control? We'll tell you.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: OMG...Prodigy...TURBO! started by JeepLab View original post
      Comments 251 Comments
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-10-2014, 03:48 PM
        Thanks to electronically controlled throttle, part of the turbo's tune could include an optimized throttle map for consistent throttle feel. I do expect that the turbo will still have a "softer" throttle feel due to lag. I wonder if that could actually end up being a benefit (reduced shock to the drivetrain when hitting the throttle).

        This is the kind of thing that JeepLab will be able to comment on after some back-to-back comparison
      1. Gunner's Avatar
        Gunner - 05-12-2014, 12:27 AM
        I'm still stuck till a CARB version for an Auto comes up.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-12-2014, 09:28 AM
        Don't hold your breath for a CARB approved version, but do call and ask about it. If enough people call and ask for it, then maybe they will see a large enough California market to make it worthwhile to invest in creating a CARB approved version.


        Any news on when the JeepLab install might happen?
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-13-2014, 05:54 PM
        As of this morning, the pipe supplier is "hoping to have them done this week". Sounds like now the best case scenario is that stage 1 kits will ship at the end of this week, or early next week. If mine arrives early/mid-week next week, I might take a day off work to avoid suffering through the rest of the week knowing that a turbo kit is sitting at home waiting for the weekend.

        I also confirmed that stage 2 installation/testing on Prodigy's test Jeep is on hold until the new production pipes come in.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-16-2014, 01:42 PM
        Next Tuesday is the projected shipping date now. Fingers crossed for a Memorial Day weekend install.
      1. Snarf77's Avatar
        Snarf77 - 05-16-2014, 07:46 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        Next Tuesday is the projected shipping date now. Fingers crossed for a Memorial Day weekend install.
        My fingers AND toes are crossed. Its sure to happen.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-20-2014, 01:03 PM
        Looks like I misunderstood. No kits shipping today. No Memorial Day weekend installation.

        From what I understand now, today they got a production sample of the new design of pipe they altered. They are testing/reviewing the fitment of the new pipe today. If everything is good with the new pipe, then a production run will be started. There will also be some final testing/confirmation of the tune with the new pipe. The end of this week is the earliest that kits could start shipping if everything goes according to plan now.

        "Again, we want to ensure that you get the best possible product we can produce. We will not send out anything and let our customers end up doing the QC work for us and have to respond to their issues. I hope you can appreciate our commitment to quality above timeliness. We only get one chance to make a first impression and we’ll get it right!"
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-22-2014, 08:49 PM
        I have an update. In an effort to not jinx it, I will simply not share any information!
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-28-2014, 01:46 PM
        FYI: the stage 1 turbo kit is now listed "on sale" on Prodigy's website for $4799: http://www.prodigyperformance.com/pr...p/pro-2001.htm

        If you placed an order already for $4995 (or was it $4999?), it only seems fair that they would retroactively price match, seeing that they haven't shipped out any orders yet.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 05-28-2014, 06:49 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        FYI: the stage 1 turbo kit is now listed "on sale" on Prodigy's website for $4799: http://www.prodigyperformance.com/pr...p/pro-2001.htm

        If you placed an order already for $4995 (or was it $4999?), it only seems fair that they would retroactively price match, seeing that they haven't shipped out any orders yet.
        Did you crowbar a shipping date?
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-28-2014, 08:46 PM
        Shipping was supposed to happen today, or possibly even yesterday. Yesterday evening, I asked if everything was still going according to plan, and I was told, "Your unit will FINALLY ship tomorrow!"

        I haven't heard anything today. I'll probably give them a call tomorrow afternoon if I haven't received an email yet.
      1. Snarf77's Avatar
        Snarf77 - 05-29-2014, 09:20 AM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        Shipping was supposed to happen today, or possibly even yesterday. Yesterday evening, I asked if everything was still going according to plan, and I was told, "Your unit will FINALLY ship tomorrow!"

        I haven't heard anything today. I'll probably give them a call tomorrow afternoon if I haven't received an email yet.
        I just want to see one of these potentially amazing systems get installed with step-by-step insight from a Jeep enthusiast. SO excited..so hate waiting!
      1. Gunner's Avatar
        Gunner - 05-29-2014, 10:56 AM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        Shipping was supposed to happen today, or possibly even yesterday. Yesterday evening, I asked if everything was still going according to plan, and I was told, "Your unit will FINALLY ship tomorrow!"

        I haven't heard anything today. I'll probably give them a call tomorrow afternoon if I haven't received an email yet.
        Yours is a stick isn't it?
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-29-2014, 12:42 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by Snarf77 View Post
        so hate waiting!
        If good things come to those who wait, then this is sure to be awesome. I just planned a day trip to an ORV park on Father's day. I need to have this turbo delivered next week if there's any hope of me getting it installed before the trip. All this anticipation and waiting makes it tough to focus at work

        Phone call went straight to voicemail. Hopefully I'll get a return call or email this afternoon.

        Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
        Yours is a stick isn't it?
        Yup. I have a bare-bones 2-door sport with manual transmission and soft top. A/C is the only option I have. This should result in a nice power:weight ratio

        The kits that are supposedly ready to start shipping now are stage 1 kits only. Stage 2 testing/development (for both manual and auto trans) was put on hold when they discovered that they needed to modify the pipe design a bit. I'd guess that it's still on hold as they work on getting stage 1 production and shipping going smoothly.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-29-2014, 02:45 PM
        Got a return call just now. The hold-up was a shipment of MAP sensor adapters that they were supposed to receive on Tuesday, but didn't arrive until this morning.

        My turbo kit is all boxed up and heading to FedEx soon! I should get an email with tracking number tonight. I'm trying to not get too excited until I actually have a tracking number with a delivery date, but I think it might finally be safe to say that it's finally coming! I suspect delivery will happen next Tuesday.

        I'll start a new thread for my installation when I get the box, starting with some unboxing pics

        If there is any stealing of thunder from JeepLab's own (future) installation thread, I apologize. It's not the intent. I hope to provide insight from a different viewpoint: just a guy with basic tools and a dirty asphalt driveway as my workshop. No vehicle lift or air tools. This is gonna be cool...
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-29-2014, 05:05 PM
        Dan at Prodigy personally dropped off my package at FedEx and sent me photographic proof of the FedEx-labeled boxes
        Just got the tracking info email from FedEx too. No estimated delivery date yet.

        2 packages: 64lbs and 22lbs.
      1. 2me's Avatar
        2me - 05-29-2014, 07:47 PM
        Let us know the due date!
        I can't wait to see the up boxing and install pics.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 05-29-2014, 08:10 PM
        Estimated delivery :
        Tues 6/03/2014

        I'll plan on getting started Tuesday evening and taking Wednesday off work to finish installation and do some test driving

        Now we just need JeepLab to get news about when their install will happen...
      1. Anotheruserid's Avatar
        Anotheruserid - 05-29-2014, 10:41 PM
        I'm gonna take Wednesday off just to follow this thread Good luck pickles. Hope it's everything you've been waiting for. I'm certain there are plenty of guys waiting on the sidelines for these systems to shake themselves out. I know I am, glad someone else has the balls to fall on the sword.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 06-02-2014, 10:56 AM
        Prodigy has officially announced that stage 1 kits are ready to ship: https://www.facebook.com/prodigyperf...40826449344325

        I'm starting to get worried that I might have to postpone my install. As of now, there's a 50% chance of rain on Wednesday, and I need dry weather to do the install in my driveway (no room in the garage).
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