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    • OMG...Prodigy...TURBO!

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      JeepLab
      Published on 02-18-2014 06:07 PM
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      Just got the news..... Prodigy wants to throw its hat in the ring with the two killer superchargers that we are testing head to head right now. To give you an idea of what that means, Prodigy's turbo kit for the 3.8 Jeep wrangler engine made as much power as the Supercharged Pentastars make....on paper.

      Here is the dyno chart they post on their website. 350 wheel horse power, and 400 torque. Sounds too good to be true.



      A big note with RIPP and Magnuson, the supercharger gurus, is drivability. Big power is easy, just cram more air in, but does the truck drive correctly on and off road? We are going to find out.

      Particularly off road, where you don't want BURSTS of power. You want an even, predictable gathering of power as you creep and crawl thru difficult terrain. You don't want to be hanging off a rock and have a power burst, it could be catastrophic. Also, the components between the engine and the ground will all be under more strain. So throttle response is paramount.

      Can these guys get a beast like this under control? We'll tell you.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: OMG...Prodigy...TURBO! started by JeepLab View original post
      Comments 251 Comments
      1. GizmoGoat's Avatar
        GizmoGoat - 04-02-2014, 03:51 PM
        Man I hope so. If not i may have to consider goin with one of the supercharger kits as I'm ready (or want) some sort of FAI on my 2014 Jk today. I'm a little bummed out as I've patiently waited for this kit, that it's not being released as a whole kit from the get go!
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-02-2014, 04:09 PM


        I was preparing to buy a RIPP when they were getting ready to start selling it (back in September last year). Then I found out about vague mentions of Prodigy working on a turbo kit. I've held off on buying a RIPP this long to weigh my options before spending a large chunk of cash. At least wait another 2 weeks or so to hopefully get an idea of when the upgrade options will become available, what the actual benefits will be, etc.

        Especially now that we have JeepLab getting ready to do testing/comparison of RIPP, Magnuson and Prodigy, it would be almost foolish to make a decision right now. It's very rare to have access to first-hand experience with direct comparisons between multiple major aftermarket options like this.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-02-2014, 06:36 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post


        I was preparing to buy a RIPP when they were getting ready to start selling it (back in September last year). Then I found out about vague mentions of Prodigy working on a turbo kit. I've held off on buying a RIPP this long to weigh my options before spending a large chunk of cash. At least wait another 2 weeks or so to hopefully get an idea of when the upgrade options will become available, what the actual benefits will be, etc.

        Especially now that we have JeepLab getting ready to do testing/comparison of RIPP, Magnuson and Prodigy, it would be almost foolish to make a decision right now. It's very rare to have access to first-hand experience with direct comparisons between multiple major aftermarket options like this.
        This guy gets it.

        Each power mod so far has pros and cons. So far the turbo is supposed to make GOBS of power. What are the cons? Only one way to find out.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-03-2014, 09:01 AM
        No dyno results posted on Prodigy's website or Facebook yet

        I hope there weren't any problems with the dyno testing yesterday.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-03-2014, 11:43 AM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        No dyno results posted on Prodigy's website or Facebook yet

        I hope there weren't any problems with the dyno testing yesterday.

        No dyno testing problems. Ive been on the phone with prodigy all morning, the dyno testing was a success.

        Numbers are coming, Ive been told what they are, but they asked me to wait for the dyno chart so they can post it with their logo. Numbers are impressive.

        Heres what else I learned today-

        Auto - Stage 1 only ready for release
        Manual - Stage 1 AND 2 will be ready for release

        Manual trans and auto have different obstacles for install, mainly that the auto has the tranny cooler by the radiator that MAY need to be relocated. This presents a current issue to be solved for the stage 2 kits for autos.

        Manual trans will have the stage 2 available from the outset, this is the turbo AND intercooler set up. This is not the set up they dyno'd last night, it was a stage 1 on an auto. It IS the unit we will be testing as all our test trucks are manual trans.

        In short, our unit is in production right now and as soon as the pipes cool, its going into a box to ship. We are shooting for the weekend of the 12th. May end up the 19th as it has to be a saturday for us.

        As of right now, we are expecting the Prodigy guys to fly to NJ to install with us. WHOA!
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-03-2014, 12:11 PM
        If they're flying out for the install, why bother shipping the kit? They can just bring the kit as carry-on luggage, cradling the precious cargo in their laps to ensure timely and safe delivery.

        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        Manual trans will have the stage 2 available from the outset, this is the turbo AND intercooler set up. This is not the set up they dyno'd last night, it was a stage 1 on an auto.
        Have you been given any info about how much of an improvement to expect from stage 2? Or how long until they'll get official dyno results for stage 2?
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-03-2014, 12:29 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        If they're flying out for the install, why bother shipping the kit? They can just bring the kit as carry-on luggage, cradling the precious cargo in their laps to ensure timely and safe delivery.



        Have you been given any info about how much of an improvement to expect from stage 2? Or how long until they'll get official dyno results for stage 2?
        They are installing the first stage 2 right now on a second jeep. It will be tested this coming week, then we are next.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-03-2014, 04:01 PM
        It sure takes a long time to put a logo on a dyno chart...
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-03-2014, 05:11 PM
        Just posted a few minutes ago on Prodigy's facebook page with the description "Good news...":

      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-03-2014, 07:14 PM
        Here are the charts. -

        This is a Stage 1, non-intercooled, setup.
        Tests run at high RPM due to the fact it was an automatic transmission.
        Torque over 340.

        Attachment 618
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-03-2014, 07:16 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
        Here are the charts. -

        This is a Stage 1, non-intercooled, setup.
        Tests run at high RPM due to the fact it was an automatic transmission.
        Torque over 340.

        Attachment 618
        Second Chart

        Attachment 619
      1. Snarf77's Avatar
        Snarf77 - 04-03-2014, 07:47 PM
        350 horsepower and torque is impressive. I can't wait to see the stage 2! Cool that air down a bit and who knows. How do they get air through the intercooler on a dyno? Just a big fan? Ambient air temperature at the test site would make all the difference.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-03-2014, 07:55 PM
        Stage 2 testing will be done with a manual transmission, so they'll be able to get a dyno chart covering the whole rpm range. Can't wait to see that.
      1. JeepLab's Avatar
        JeepLab - 04-03-2014, 08:29 PM
        Jesse's Girl is our planned Turbo Jeep.

        Lets hope her tires dont melt on the dyno.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-03-2014, 08:59 PM
        A few extra tidbits of info in Prodigy's facebook post:

        made 333rwhp and over 340rwtq on only 5lbs of boost with no intercooler! We will be able to graph the entire rpm window from 2k rpm next week when we put our 6spd on the Dyno. The auto Trans kept us from sampling the entire rpm window as it insisted on downshifting.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-03-2014, 09:44 PM
        And a little sample of the acceleration sounds: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater
      1. Pznivy's Avatar
        Pznivy - 04-04-2014, 06:37 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        And a little sample of the acceleration sounds: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater
        That thing is crazy... Turbos make BIG torque early. That torque line is off the charts. The tune is going to be the challenge. Its going to be hard to get that kind of power to be stable and "good". Its going to be like putting a bridal on a missile.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-04-2014, 06:56 PM
        I'm not expecting this turbo to make big torque at low rpm. Notice that chart starts around 4000 rpm. I think this turbo is probably sized for big mid range torque. We have to wait for the dyno results of the stick shift to see what the low rpm range looks like.
      1. Yoinkers's Avatar
        Yoinkers - 04-04-2014, 07:14 PM
        Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
        I'm not expecting this turbo to make big torque at low rpm. Notice that chart starts around 4000 rpm. I this turbo is probably sized for big mid range torque. We have to wait for the dyno results of the stick shift to see what the low rpm range looks like.
        The line is steep but goes straight to 340 and then stays there. Dare I say this may be the new power mod to beat?

        and I agree with pznivy, I dont know how they are going to get a handle on THIS much power.

        And that chart is the WEAKEST option they will offer.
      1. UselessPickles's Avatar
        UselessPickles - 04-04-2014, 07:27 PM
        Can't wait to hear JeepLabs initial impressions about driveability. I hope things work out for an install on the 12th
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