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  • Pentastar + RIPP SuperCharger = SUPERSTAR?

    This is one of my favorite threads. Worked on it for a year. Started it in March of 2013

    Yep Its Done.

    Only 2 others in existance. Both auto. Ripp's and Rockstar's.

    The only 6-Spd RIPP SuperCharged Pentastar JK in the world is in my garage.

    I want to thank Ross and the guys from RIPP for all the work. I hung out with them for a few hours, they are all very cool. Same vibe i got at Rock Krawler with Justin and the boys up in NY state. Knowledgable jeep guys, who dont mind explaining the stuff that I didn't understand going in. Im not a mechanic, so sometimes my questions might sound silly, but these guys were happy to explain in detail, not bothered by my entry level understanding of superchargers.

    Here are the stats on Black Betty.

    12 JKUR
    315 Duratracs
    2.5 X-Factor Rock Krawler Lift
    6 Spd
    4.10 Gears.
    No Exhaust Mods at this time.

    Drove it for the first time today. It is very fast. The boys at ripp installed it, so im going to get more involved explaining the installation later. Suffices to say, the install was done in one day, then the dyno passes began. I'll post the before and after dyno numbers as soon as I dig up the pictures.

    Here is the short version so far. Ross from RIPP is pulling my truck off the dyno for a test drive, motions to me to get in. I'm freaking out with delight, as I had tried to stay out of his way for the last hour while he was dialing it in on the dyno. I jump into the passenger seat, ready to fire 1000 questions.

    The first question that comes out regarding the prototype supercharger set up. "So do I have to be careful with this thing?" I asked. Ross looks at me with a smirk, and then turns down a deserted alley, "watch this" then floors it. I can hear the WHHIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRR of the SuperCharger spinning. I was knocked back into my seat. He chirped the tires, with a hard shift into second, then to my amazement, CHIRPED THEM AGAIN going into 3rd!

    He was showing me that the "Prototype" that I had was not delicate or fragile. He explained that the dyno runs he had been doing for the last 2 days were harder on the system than anything I was going to do to it on the road.

    I drove it home on the NJ turnpike where I could open it up, but didnt get too aggressive with it. Ill give you guys my thoughts after I drive it cold tomorrow.

    Overall im impressed so far. but ive only driven it a short distance and really haven't gotten on it.....Yet.



    This article was originally published in forum thread: Pentastar + RIPP SuperCharger = SUPERSTAR? started by JeepLab View original post
    Comments 25 Comments
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Planning to get my hands on RIPP's 11 psi pulley to run more tests.
    1. Yoinkers's Avatar
      Yoinkers -
      Black Betty is one special Jeep.

      If you had it to do over again.... Would you still put the RIPP SC on? Or go Mag? Or wait for the TURBO?
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Yoinkers View Post
      Black Betty is one special Jeep.

      If you had it to do over again.... Would you still put the RIPP SC on? Or go Mag? Or wait for the TURBO?
      This is a matter of taste.

      I've driven with the RIPP SC for over a year now. I drove it cross country.

      Would I love a mag if id had it the whole time? Maybe.

      But having lived with this SC for so long, and how trouble free the jeep is with it, I can say, If i was building a new jeep tomorrow... It would have a RIPP.
    1. Rexx19's Avatar
      Rexx19 -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
      This is a matter of taste.

      I've driven with the RIPP SC for over a year now. I drove it cross country.

      Would I love a mag if id had it the whole time? Maybe.

      But having lived with this SC for so long, and how trouble free the jeep is with it, I can say, If i was building a new jeep tomorrow... It would have a RIPP.

      That is quite the statement. But if betty had a mag...you might have loved that...
    1. Gunner's Avatar
      Gunner -
      Still concerned about running this on my 13 Auto. The trans codes are so severely restricted that I am afraid to mess with it.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
      Still concerned about running this on my 13 Auto. The trans codes are so severely restricted that I am afraid to mess with it.
      I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with a 13, but I'll look into it.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeepLab View Post
      I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with a 13, but I'll look into it.
      Ok, word from the source is that the 2013 auto tune is polished. They do not expect any hiccups.
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      My dad's 13 JKU sport with auto trans has had a RIPP for several months and thousands of miles now. It has required several (2 hour each way) trips to get bugs straightened out. First tune was no good, nobody contacted us about the new one when it came available, we had to call and complain then they said " oh we have a new tune out that's bug- free". Also with the auto you have to remember there is a " lift to shift" while at full throttle where you have to completely remove your foot from the throttle for a second at the top of each gear or the trans won't shift for several seconds. It's not bouncing of the redline it just kills all power and let's the SC spool completely down. This was especially troublesome for my dad when attempting to pass on a 2 lane 55 mph road. We weren't advised of lift to shift method until the 4 the month of ownership. I'm glad that BB's experience has been flawless, but our experience has been anything but, with calls and emails never returned, tunes taking days to get returned( which means you can't even start you jeep), numerous extra expenses ( not too mention all the wasted gas and time), the last time it was in the shop 2.5 weeks. One of the most frustrating things was we traveled so far because that was the closest RIPP authorized dealer to our town, then having to listen to the blame game between ripp and their installer. I can only speak for my father and myself, but I would never buy from them again.
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      These stories of tuning troubles on the automatics makes me glad I have a manual
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by Deola View Post
      I'm glad that BB's experience has been flawless, but our experience has been anything but,
      Black Betty's flawless now...She is on her 10th tune. LOL. You have to realize that Its a 12, which means RIPP has an extra year of R&D with it, AND its a manual, that cuts out any issues from the tranny.

      What this brings up, is the tunes with all manufacturers, and how long it takes to get a stable reliable tune.

      Keep in mind, Ive never driven a supercharged auto. All our trucks are manual trans.
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
      These stories of tuning troubles on the automatics makes me glad I have a manual
      X2 for me, but for my Dad at almost 68 Years old an auto was the better choice.
    1. RIPPMODS's Avatar
      RIPPMODS -
      Quote Originally Posted by Deola View Post
      My dad's 13 JKU sport with auto trans has had a RIPP for several months and thousands of miles now. It has required several (2 hour each way) trips to get bugs straightened out. First tune was no good, nobody contacted us about the new one when it came available, we had to call and complain then they said " oh we have a new tune out that's bug- free". Also with the auto you have to remember there is a " lift to shift" while at full throttle where you have to completely remove your foot from the throttle for a second at the top of each gear or the trans won't shift for several seconds. It's not bouncing of the redline it just kills all power and let's the SC spool completely down. This was especially troublesome for my dad when attempting to pass on a 2 lane 55 mph road. We weren't advised of lift to shift method until the 4 the month of ownership. I'm glad that BB's experience has been flawless, but our experience has been anything but, with calls and emails never returned, tunes taking days to get returned( which means you can't even start you jeep), numerous extra expenses ( not too mention all the wasted gas and time), the last time it was in the shop 2.5 weeks. One of the most frustrating things was we traveled so far because that was the closest RIPP authorized dealer to our town, then having to listen to the blame game between ripp and their installer. I can only speak for my father and myself, but I would never buy from them again.
      Fist and foremost we are sorry for your experience. With over 4000 systems sold, your experience is in no way typical. That said, in the first page of the install instructions included with the system it states " Automatic Transmission: Auto Transmissions may not up shift at full throttle when driving in "D" (drive) mode, THIS IS a Direct product of OEM programming and not the provided tuning. In order to shift at full throttle, end users may either "lift to shift" by raising the accelerator slightly (partially).
      We did make a public announcement in all of the major Jeep forums, and all of our social media outlets (Facebook,twitter,instagram,tumbler ect) that a tune update was available and that all owners should update to the latest tune.
      Currently, all 3.6L Supercharger systems now come with a PRE PROGRAMED Diablosport I1000, which auto updates, when plugged into a PC with an internet connection, so there is no longer a wait for a tune to be emailed to the end user. The "Lift to shift " issue has also been addressed with the latest calibration, but some vehicle may need up to 2000 miles for the OEM adaptives to "learn". This is more the exception than the rule. We pride ourselves in our customer service and are sorry that we seem to have failed you in this.

      Please Note this Email address ( ripptuning@gmail.com) as it should make any future technical issues or questions easier to address.
    1. JeepLab's Avatar
      JeepLab -
      Quote Originally Posted by RIPPMODS View Post
      Fist and foremost we are sorry for your experience. With over 4000 systems sold, your experience is in no way typical. That said, in the first page of the install instructions included with the system it states " Automatic Transmission: Auto Transmissions may not up shift at full throttle when driving in "D" (drive) mode, THIS IS a Direct product of OEM programming and not the provided tuning. In order to shift at full throttle, end users may either "lift to shift" by raising the accelerator slightly (partially).
      We did make a public announcement in all of the major Jeep forums, and all of our social media outlets (Facebook,twitter,instagram,tumbler ect) that a tune update was available and that all owners should update to the latest tune.
      Currently, all 3.6L Supercharger systems now come with a PRE PROGRAMED Diablosport I1000, which auto updates, when plugged into a PC with an internet connection, so there is no longer a wait for a tune to be emailed to the end user. The "Lift to shift " issue has also been addressed with the latest calibration, but some vehicle may need up to 2000 miles for the OEM adaptives to "learn". This is more the exception than the rule. We pride ourselves in our customer service and are sorry that we seem to have failed you in this.

      Please Note this Email address ( ripptuning@gmail.com) as it should make any future technical issues or questions easier to address.
      Deola, is your dad's truck up to date on updates? I hope this nips your problem.
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      As far as I know, I was outta service all day today, and work tomorrow. I can check on it Sunday. We had it tuned 3-4 weeks ago, so if the tune is newer than that then no, he doesn't have it.
    1. RIPPMODS's Avatar
      RIPPMODS -
      Quote Originally Posted by Deola View Post
      As far as I know, I was outta service all day today, and work tomorrow. I can check on it Sunday. We had it tuned 3-4 weeks ago, so if the tune is newer than that then no, he doesn't have it.
      Lets get this right. Please keep in touch with us.
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      Quote Originally Posted by RIPPMODS View Post
      Lets get this right. Please keep in touch with us.
      I contacted the installer today, waiting to hear back from them.
    1. Deola's Avatar
      Deola -
      The jeep has the newest tune.
    1. UselessPickles's Avatar
      UselessPickles -
      ... but does the Trinity tuner have the latest firmware version?

      There have been some problems that were not the fault of the tune itself, but the tuner's software that writes the tune. If you contact RIPP with the Trinity in-hand and powered up, they should be able to walk you through checking the firmware version on your tuner and let you know if you need to update it. They should be aware of which versions of the firmware had problems.
    1. RIPPMODS's Avatar
      RIPPMODS -
      Quote Originally Posted by UselessPickles View Post
      ... but does the Trinity tuner have the latest firmware version?

      There have been some problems that were not the fault of the tune itself, but the tuner's software that writes the tune. If you contact RIPP with the Trinity in-hand and powered up, they should be able to walk you through checking the firmware version on your tuner and let you know if you need to update it. They should be aware of which versions of the firmware had problems.
      This is a recent post we have made in another forum:

      Quote Originally Posted by RIPPMODS View Post
      Yes, we are constantly refining our product. Make sure your tool (diablosport) has the latest firmware update. This can be done by the following:

      RM1000 (I1000 InTune) Plug the unit into any PC with an internet connection.

      For T1000 (Trinity)

      1. Uninstall your ripp tune and return the stock (original backup file) to your JK ( Un-Marry) the tool from your vehicle)
      2. Download DS Downloader from the diablosport website and install on your PC
      3. Plug your trinity in to your PC

      4. FOLLOW THIS VIDEO!!!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdX1MGTIB2o



      5.After you have completed the steps above, re-marry your T-1000. Re-retrieve the original backup file.

      6. Re install your RIPP Tune.

      To make sure your are running the latest RIPP TUNE, Contact ripptuning@gmail.com, put in the the subject: Tune update.

      Please include a copy of the following files.
      A. Original Backup file
      B. Last tune written

      If you have any questions, Please do not hesitate to give us a call.

      718-815-1313 ext.11

      Questions welcome!

      RIPP
    1. Pznivy's Avatar
      Pznivy -
      So is this solved?
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