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I recently figured out that I'm almost 100% sure I can afford the kit right about now, based on what I know so far about possible pricing (got some extra cash via referral bonuses at work!). I still need final pricing info to determine whether I can get ceramic coated pipes and a blacked-out intercooler though...
Pickles- do you know if the AFE Y-pipe is compatible with the 3.6 turbo kit?
I think it's safe to say that the AFE Y-pipe will be incompatible. That entire section of the stock exhaust will be replaced with the turbo kit. It has its own 2-into-1 pipie heading up toward the turbo in front of the engine. Then a single pipe heads down from the turbo and back to connect with the remainder of the stock exhaust.
I haven't seen how the pipes are routed in the 3.6 kit yet, but I think it will be along the same lines as the 3.8 kit pictured here:
http://www.jkowners.com/forum/attach...5&d=1361906400
Ok thanks! Just trying to plan ahead. I also am going to pull the trigger on this kit! I can't wait! I talked to prodogy yesterday and they gave me a ETA of 3-4 weeks. I was leaning toward the maggy but feel the turbo better suits my needs.
I sure hope they announce all the details sooner than 3-4 weeks!
Ross, are you withholding any good info?
It's taking longer than I expected for any official info to start coming out. I've emailed a couple questions about the lack of BOV and about the anti-surge compressor, but I've gotten no responses at all. It doesn't really seem worth bothering them with a phone call about these things when all the basic details of the kit haven't even been announced yet.
I dont have any more info than you at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessPickles
I thought the kit being available to the public so fast was optimistic when they told me they wouldn't release pics, and hadn't been complete with the mock up to mass produce the pipes required.
This stuff has to be right when they sell it, so rushing it at this point when both superchargers are already in the market does not make sense.
The plan is good, and should work fine, but they have to put in the time and effort to make sure an idiot can install it.
That means good pictures and instructions that can be difficult for people who know turbos and engines as well as these guys do. Their advanced brains become an obstacle when writing instructions, because they already know so much, it easy to assume that the standard person might know the basics, when the standard person might not.
It all takes time to do it right. As soon as they are confident that its ready...
Ok... things are starting to cook....
You're such a tease...
I got the message after they were closed today...
I need to get a confirmation on some point before spilling the beans. Ill spill them tomorrow.
I believe its officially tomorrow! ;). But seriously..get your ducks in a row before firing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepLab
good advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarf77
still waiting on confirmation
I should have confirmation on on a Turbo shipping date next monday.
That was quite anti-climactic. Is that all the beans you have to spill?
It really was...
Id gotten an email that suggested that the prodigy guys might come here to do the install on camera with us.
That was what I was trying to confirm. As of now Im not sure whats happening as far as weather they are coming to NJ, but the part that was cleared up is that I should expect a shipping date early next week.
That could work out nicely if they were there for the install, especially if they observe more than help. It would be like usability testing, where they could make note of any confusion/uncertainty you run into during the install and use it to improve their instructions. It would also be nice to have them right there to directly discuss the various concerns that have come up (under-hood heat, hot-side of the turbo so close to plastic parts, etc), and any other questions you come up with during the install and initial test drives.
agreed. It would be excellent to have them here with us. I was shocked that it was even a possibility. They are trying to crank out these kits as fast as they can, to take the time to work a FLIGHT into that schedule would be incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessPickles
Even if they don't end up here with us, we will be using the instructions from a rookie point of view, and if there is anything we find to be unclear or worthy or retooling, we will make them a list. We do that for all our installs.
This is finally happening....
I, for one, hope they make it out in-person. It would give them a massive head start, potentially saving weeks or even months of back and forth with early consumers with unanticipated install issues. New photos for updated instructions, clarifications on hard to understand portions, an install "video" perhaps for youtube (one of the most useful things EVER) that everyone would refer to, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pznivy
That being said, it would be a huge effort for them to come out.
*fingers crossed*
When this does actually happen, you guys should block non-members from the turbo content.
Make some of these lurkers make accounts and get in the game... This site has soooo many "silent watchers".
Get onboard EVERYONE!
That would be about as effective as news websites that require an account to read their articles. Depending on how they block access, I simply hack around it, or just go somewhere else :)
There's really no reason to block non-members from viewing content, unless the cost of bandwidth is prohibitive. Viewers generate ad revenue, regardless of whether they are logged-in. Non-member viewers that like what they see spread the word to others that may become contributing members, or at least more ad-revenue-generating viewers.
We would NEVER block anyone. If they have something to say they'll get in and say it. If they like to read thats cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoinkers
All forums have this sort of relationship. The content is posted by few but read by many.
Im just glad they are watching. (silent or not)
Well- this thread got me to sign up when I found it yesterday...and could be the deciding factor in getting rid of my built Ram 5500 on 43's for another Jeep (nothing to haul anymore)
Sold my '08 JKU Rubicon with 5.7 hemi and full AEV kit last fall (too many rigs and still had to haul), but I miss it big time. Drove a couple new 2drs with the 3.6, they were ok (all stock)- but nothing like the hemi.
These results just might nudge me back into a JK: this time 2 dr, light(ish), stretched and low COG (LOVE the Vengeance build)...factoring in the cost of a hemi or LS swap is getting (way) up there, turbo or SC on a 3.6 might just make it more doable. :cool:
FIRST POST!Quote:
Originally Posted by STRAC
Welcome STRAC!
Sounds like your a veteran jeeper as a hemi swap is still the most invasive thing you can do to your rig. Excellent to have you.
Give us a pic of your Ram 5500, with 43s it sounds monstrous.
If anyone is wondering, and not to hijack my own thread...
this is the vengeance build.
Attachment 572
Now back to your regularly scheduled TURBO discussion
Just as soon as you give us something to discuss...Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepLab
Don't you have any connections down in Florida that you could send in to stake out Prodigy's shop?
Don't want to hijack (more, but since there won't be any TURBO news till next week...), here is my build thread on pirate: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-r...500-build.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by JeepLab
If the link is off base just let me know and I'll delete (just as fast as with my EGR & DPF! ;) )
I really want to see the results of this turbo on a 3.6...
I came across the best argument I've seen so far for not installing a Prodigy turbo kit:
"The Pentastar motor, as much as I like the one in my wife's Jeep, does not feel like the kind of motor that would like a turbo strapped to it."
This is priceless.Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessPickles
must be a mechanic.
My pentastar LOVES its SC. I cant imagine a pentastar that would like a turbo.
My pentastar loves long walks on the beach, cats, and romantic dinners. Oh...and turbos.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepLab
Are we there yet? Are we there yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepLab
Hang in there. Im following up...Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessPickles
Here's what I got back-
REAL close, really! Dyno testing tomorrow at 6 pm. 1/4 mile at PBIR on Friday. We'll have pictures and video to release this week. Tentative plan for ship to you next week.
I'll update you tomorrow night.
Will start accepting pre-orders next week. Pipes finalized and going into production later this week.
Hey guys first post! Here's an email I just got
"We’ve completed the Turbo Kit for the 2012 3.6L Pentastar engine. Production is now underway and we are accepting orders. Tonight on our website I will be posting the results of our Dyno testing.
Full introduction will be tomorrow on our website!
Stay tuned………
Dan Marra
Vice President
Prodigy Performance, LLC
dan@prodigyperformance.com
561.676.3123"
HEY NEW GUY! WELCOME!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jkfletch7
add yourself to the list of us waiting for this monster to arrive. As soon as it does, this thread will be loaded with pics and opinions of their plan to add this un-godly amount of power to our pentastars.
I hope that along with the results of the dyno testing, they do a video of the 1/4 mile run and associated times Friday. Super exciting.
"We are introducing the Stage 1 Turbo Kit for 3.6L Pentastar first. This is the base turbo kit.
We will offer upgrade components to make it a Stage 2 next. This will be the intercooler kit.
Finally, the Stage 3 Turbo will include the boost kit to take it to the top.
Ceramic coating is something we will look at after product introduction.
Turbo blankets with Prodigy logo are being manufactured now.
Polished and drilled housing on the turbo unit will be an option. The photos we’ll release tomorrow will have the polished housing, but that will not be in the basic Stage 1,2, or 3 offering."
Seems like several stages of expensive! I was hoping the intercooler would be part of the stage 1 but I come from a relative state of ignorance of such things. The intercooler definitely seems worthwhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessPickles
"With the numbers we expect to see tonight, Stage 1 is going to make a lot of people happy!"
Maybe the intercooler won't be so necessary? Although, I'm of the opinion that any amount of power that can be had without major engine work is necessary to have, because why not? :)
I wonder how soon after release will the intercooler kit be avaiable?