The Powder Coat Saga Continues...

So I got the Nemesis Industries flares last year.

Beautiful.

Ill post the unboxing video in a sec. They came bare aluminum. Works of art really.

I wanted to wrap them in Xpel Ultimate Wrap, like the rest of the truck. So I needed a perfect finish. Nice and flat so I can wrap over it. I figure paint was the way to go. A friend owed me a favor and told me to take them to "his guy". 1st mistake. This guy was a butcher.

They came back scratched. Really scratched. Awful. I'll find some pics.

The guy was sorry, yada yada yada,

Bring them back.... Same thing.

Here are the bare flares in the boxes.

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Here are some shots after the first shot at paint... Real terrible work. Ill figure out the name of the shop so I can publicly blast them. The guy was an idiot.

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Suffices to say, this was not going to cut it.

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I talked to a bunch of powdercoaters but it seemed like they all wanted around $600 to do 4 flares. I considered that to be expensive.

Heartbroken so far, and weeks passing, I brought them to a powdercoater who charged me 300 to do the job. But did the job awful again. I wanted to kill myself.

There were rough spots and "out gassing" as Ive learned to call it now.

Really busch league. Still the flares could not be wrapped.

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Originally Posted by JeepLab

Heartbroken so far, and weeks passing, I brought them to a powdercoater who charged me 300 to do the job. But did the job awful again. I wanted to kill myself.

There were rough spots and "out gassing" as Ive learned to call it now.

Really busch league. Still the flares could not be wrapped.

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I got my jkur interior done for 600 total, I think their prices are consistent nationwide.

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Originally Posted by Deola

I got my jkur interior done for 600 total, I think their prices are consistent nationwide.

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is that powder coat?

or rhino liner?

Similar to rhino but a better texture and tougher imo

You know I have a great powder coat guy, genuinely good prep work and amazing attention to detail. Unfortunately, I'm in Maryland so transportation costs would be prohibitive. I don't know what it is that makes it so challenging.

The correction begins.

I just drove to RK this past weekend with bare flares because ive been trying to get them fixed.

Now betty is back and the flares are stripped and back in the oven.

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Did the jerks who screwed up your first coat job get paid?

Or did you stiff them?

The trouble is that you have to pay for strip after they screwed up. They really should pay for that. BUT at the same time, you cannot trust them to do it right.

I like to think I'd have stiffed them, Whole thing is a nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Yoinkers

I like to think I'd have stiffed them, Whole thing is a nightmare.

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I paid them.

I shouldnt have.

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Originally Posted by JeepLab

I paid them.

I shouldnt have.

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Ouch. I'm sorry to hear of the troubles. That's the one issue of receiving something bare metal. My Poison Spyder bumper came bare metal and I decided to prep and rattle can bed-line it myself. At least I can touch it up when it gets trashed.

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Originally Posted by WhiteRavenRR

Ouch. I'm sorry to hear of the troubles. That's the one issue of receiving something bare metal. My Poison Spyder bumper came bare metal and I decided to prep and rattle can bed-line it myself. At least I can touch it up when it gets trashed.

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Same with my JCR bumpers. I find that rattle can looks great, IF you prep good, and do a bunch of coats.

You need to pay close attention to welds as those spots may seem painted, but then you find rust there later. I get thick in the corners.

So I have a few spare minutes and figured since I'm the one powder coating them, I will chime in.

So I first saw these Nemesis Flat Flares on Ross's Jeep a few weeks ago after we were introduced through my cousin, "Frank the Tank". At first glance I was horrified of the previous powder work done on these, as the flares were covered with "out-gassing" as well as "orange peel" in the finish. As Ross would put it "Busch League"!!

I agreed to help a friend out and re-due the flares for him and help his cause.

First things first, the flares needed to be stripped of the previous powder and get them back to bare aluminum so we can see what we have underneath. Due to the fact that these are larger than I can handle in my blast setup, I dropped them off with my commercial guy. After a week at the blaster he called me to curse me out as he said he had never seen such thick powder on anything before, hence the orange peel. Ultimately due to the poor powder job we had to go to plan B...chemical stripping!! So after the media blasting, chemical stripping saga I was finally able to get these all cleaned up and back to bare aluminum.

I now have them back after Ross drove to Rock Krawler. After careful inspection of the bare flares I realized these would need quite a bit of prep work starting with sanding. I noticed there were high and low spots throughout the flares so to get a nice glassy finish these must be sanded. Below are some pics of the process.
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Once everything is all sanded smooth I will begin the next step which will be to shoot some primer for salt corrosion protection.

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The correction begins.

I just drove to RK this past weekend with bare flares because ive been trying to get them fixed.

Now betty is back and the flares are stripped and back in the oven.

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The picture Ross posted was of the flares being out-gassed of all oils and contaminates. A little info about out-gassing: Aluminum and other softer porous substrates require an "out-gassing" or "bake-out" procedure to force any contaminants like oils, chemicals or grease to the surface of the substrate which can then be cleaned or blasted off. The out-gassing procedure requires the parts/substrate to be heated for 45 min @ 450*F. If this step is not taken I can guarantee there will be imperfections in the final finish such as tiny bubbles or holes in the finish.
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Originally Posted by Byrne Coatings

The picture Ross posted was of the flares being out-gassed of all oils and contaminates. A little info about out-gassing: Aluminum and other softer porous substrates require an "out-gassing" or "bake-out" procedure to force any contaminants like oils, chemicals or grease to the surface of the substrate which can then be cleaned or blasted off. The out-gassing procedure requires the parts/substrate to be heated for 45 min @ 450*F. If this step is not taken I can guarantee there will be imperfections in the final finish such as tiny bubbles or holes in the finish.
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Good information for anyone taking things to the powder shop. Nothing better for the consumer than to be education prior to a purchase. Info like this allows us to judge whether or not a vendor knows their stuff!

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Originally Posted by Byrne Coatings

The picture Ross posted was of the flares being out-gassed of all oils and contaminates. A little info about out-gassing: Aluminum and other softer porous substrates require an "out-gassing" or "bake-out" procedure to force any contaminants like oils, chemicals or grease to the surface of the substrate which can then be cleaned or blasted off. The out-gassing procedure requires the parts/substrate to be heated for 45 min @ 450*F. If this step is not taken I can guarantee there will be imperfections in the final finish such as tiny bubbles or holes in the finish.
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This is horrendous. You can see why you couldnt wrap this. Gross.

is the finished product coming?

Byrne Coatings is legit, Im pumped to see these done. I may be biased (being my cousin and all) haha but his work is light years above anyone else I have seen in the game.

Wait til you guys see the coat jobs on the AR15's this man has done haha

The saga continues.

The flares came back better than they went, but they are not ready for wrap. Im planning to bring them to a paint shop. The only way to get them to the show quality Im going for is with paint.

Powder coat is good with textures, but black gloss seems impossible to get correct.

the powder coat guy does nice stuff. i saw his thread separately.

But your flares are going in for paint now?

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Originally Posted by Pznivy

the powder coat guy does nice stuff. i saw his thread separately.

But your flares are going in for paint now?

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Yes, the powder is as good as powder could be I guess. but not good enough. going to a paint shop for another correction.

Why cant you do Black Chrome or what ever colored chrome that matches your Jeep
Just Curious

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This is one of my bikes that we did a fade from a dark copper to a plain chrome with graphics here and there

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This is one of my bikes that we did a fade from a dark copper to a plain chrome with graphics here and there

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Hot bike!

I don't know much about chroming things. the flares that I was trying to powder coat are aluminum. I have no idea how that would turn out, or if its been done before.....if it hasn't......