really at this point I wouldnt venture to guess. might be quick once they start laying out this first stage....
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Man I hope so. If not i may have to consider goin with one of the supercharger kits as I'm ready (or want) some sort of FAI on my 2014 Jk today. I'm a little bummed out as I've patiently waited for this kit, that it's not being released as a whole kit from the get go!
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I was preparing to buy a RIPP when they were getting ready to start selling it (back in September last year). Then I found out about vague mentions of Prodigy working on a turbo kit. I've held off on buying a RIPP this long to weigh my options before spending a large chunk of cash. At least wait another 2 weeks or so to hopefully get an idea of when the upgrade options will become available, what the actual benefits will be, etc.
Especially now that we have JeepLab getting ready to do testing/comparison of RIPP, Magnuson and Prodigy, it would be almost foolish to make a decision right now. It's very rare to have access to first-hand experience with direct comparisons between multiple major aftermarket options like this.
No dyno results posted on Prodigy's website or Facebook yet :(
I hope there weren't any problems with the dyno testing yesterday.
No dyno testing problems. Ive been on the phone with prodigy all morning, the dyno testing was a success.
Numbers are coming, Ive been told what they are, but they asked me to wait for the dyno chart so they can post it with their logo. Numbers are impressive.
Heres what else I learned today-
Auto - Stage 1 only ready for release
Manual - Stage 1 AND 2 will be ready for release
Manual trans and auto have different obstacles for install, mainly that the auto has the tranny cooler by the radiator that MAY need to be relocated. This presents a current issue to be solved for the stage 2 kits for autos.
Manual trans will have the stage 2 available from the outset, this is the turbo AND intercooler set up. This is not the set up they dyno'd last night, it was a stage 1 on an auto. It IS the unit we will be testing as all our test trucks are manual trans.
In short, our unit is in production right now and as soon as the pipes cool, its going into a box to ship. We are shooting for the weekend of the 12th. May end up the 19th as it has to be a saturday for us.
As of right now, we are expecting the Prodigy guys to fly to NJ to install with us. WHOA!
If they're flying out for the install, why bother shipping the kit? They can just bring the kit as carry-on luggage, cradling the precious cargo in their laps to ensure timely and safe delivery. :)
Have you been given any info about how much of an improvement to expect from stage 2? Or how long until they'll get official dyno results for stage 2?
It sure takes a long time to put a logo on a dyno chart...
Just posted a few minutes ago on Prodigy's facebook page with the description "Good news...":
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Here are the charts. -
This is a Stage 1, non-intercooled, setup.
Tests run at high RPM due to the fact it was an automatic transmission.
Torque over 340.
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Second Chart
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350 horsepower and torque is impressive. I can't wait to see the stage 2! Cool that air down a bit and who knows. How do they get air through the intercooler on a dyno? Just a big fan? Ambient air temperature at the test site would make all the difference.
Stage 2 testing will be done with a manual transmission, so they'll be able to get a dyno chart covering the whole rpm range. Can't wait to see that.
Jesse's Girl is our planned Turbo Jeep.
Lets hope her tires dont melt on the dyno.
A few extra tidbits of info in Prodigy's facebook post:
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made 333rwhp and over 340rwtq on only 5lbs of boost with no intercooler! We will be able to graph the entire rpm window from 2k rpm next week when we put our 6spd on the Dyno. The auto Trans kept us from sampling the entire rpm window as it insisted on downshifting.
And a little sample of the acceleration sounds: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater
I'm not expecting this turbo to make big torque at low rpm. Notice that chart starts around 4000 rpm. I think this turbo is probably sized for big mid range torque. We have to wait for the dyno results of the stick shift to see what the low rpm range looks like.
The line is steep but goes straight to 340 and then stays there. Dare I say this may be the new power mod to beat?
and I agree with pznivy, I dont know how they are going to get a handle on THIS much power.
And that chart is the WEAKEST option they will offer.
Can't wait to hear JeepLabs initial impressions about driveability. I hope things work out for an install on the 12th :)
For the Auto guys, a concern of mine is under hood temps without the intercooler kit.? I'm of the opinion that intercooler will vital to the JK.
I'd be willing to bet that the stage 1 kit is setup with lower boost to be safe without the intercooler. It's only 5 psi boost. I predict 8+ psi for stage 2.
Btw. There was no visit to the drag strip yesterday. That may happen late next week now after they have a kit installed on a manual transmission jeep. The plan plan is to install stage 1 on it, get results, then upgrade to stage 2 and get results again.
JeepLab: are you on track to install on the 12th, or is it up in the air still?
Nothing is set until the box arrives.
Also, its good to note, you do NOT want to rush a power mod like this one. The prodigy guys would be CRAZY to release before they are ready. The people with the first units will be the ones that the next thousand are listening to about power gain, drive ability, the pentastar's durability with the heat and boost created by this monster.
Weather or not these things sell, will depend on those people's experiences.
We know these guys know what they are doing, and we know they made huge power with the 3.8 which was a pig on its best day, so the cards are stacked that this mod will be groundbreaking, but rushing it is a mistake.
Mistake is right.
If these guys put out a unit that damages trucks, or melts something vital in the engine bay, they will be out of business. No one knows that better than the guys at prodigy, and Ripp and Magnuson. They have to double check and triple check, and then beat on it like no one who buys it will ever do.
The have to be sure. The alternative is a catastrophe.
We want it now, (im personally chomping at the bit), But as much as I want it now, and to see the testing and install, I also want it good as this is a mod that may find its way into my garage.
I agree with the rest of you that Prodigy should by no means rush this kit.
Ross- Do you know where Ripp mounts or relocates the transmission cooler on the 3.6 Autos?
Do we know anything about the pricing of stage 1 yet?
We are probably looking at the 19th to install the turbo. I just talked to dan about their own testing schedule and its pretty crazy.
They want to install stage one, test, dyno, then stage 2, test, and dyno.
Their plate is full.
How extensive is this "testing" that they'll be doing? At this point I expect they would have been tuning all along with each iteration of prototype and would hope that the tune itself should be solid and thoroughly tested. If they are just doing final sanity-check testing and getting official dyno results, then it seems possible that they could have official results to release for stage 1 and 2 on the manual by the weekend (but not soon enough to fly out for the JeepLab install on the 12th).
Are they waiting for final stage 2 testing on their jeep before shipping your kit out?
Is there a planned date for pricing info, kit contents, etc., to become available? They said they would start taking pre-orders this week, so either pricing and other details have to come out soon, or the pre-ordering will have to be delayed.
So close yet so far. If I'd have to guess on a official time of release, I would have to say not for another month or two.
When we see the unit in the box, I'll be able to tell you about how far out I think it really is. If the box is perfectly organized and the instructions are clear, its going to be quick.
If its unclear, it will be longer. Ill post pics as soon as I can. (maybe with a prediction)
Huh huh, huh huh... he said "unit"...
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Turbo, Turbo, TURBO!