You know, I just go thinking... MAYBE as a dry-run I'll take the 6.7L diesel engine out of my SuperDuty and toss er' into the ol' Jeep, you know, just to get an idea of what 800ft/lbs. of torque will do in the Jeep before I toss in KaiserBill's much more powerful 4-53T Diesel. Do you think I'll need to upgrade my Dana 30 front end first? Shoot, I don't even know why I'm questioning that, I'll just take the axles off the SuperDuty, trim them down in width and move them over to the Jeep. Drive shaft as well. While I'm at it, might as well move the transfer case over as well. Hmm... Wonder if the transmission can handle 800ft/lbs. You know what, I'll grab the transmission out of the SuperDuty as well. Anything else I'm missing from the Ford I should bring over for this dry run? Soooo exciting, want me to post videos of the before and after 0-60 run?
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I want to see the truck work out for you... I like where you going with this idea. I still think portal axles would be a better choice if you want to run 14.5R20's or larger tires-- I mean go big or go home-- right?
I really don't care that much for speed-- for all I care it could never reach 60mph ever!!!! It just doesn't matter to me. But you know I say post that 0-60 video-- I'm sure it will get a lot of attention. Myself I would be more interested in Vertical Step capability, Vertical and Side Slope Climbing Capability , Fording Capability , and payload and tow capacity off-road rather than speed. But, I'm odd that way.
If you want Speed Mazada is developing a Turbo Diesel for 24hr Racing that is a 4 cylinder 2.2L Diesel making a reliable 200+ HP per Liter. That might be the ticket for you 400+ hp at high speed and it a compact package to boot!!!! What is not to love?
They are using compound turbo charging to develop these numbers! So, I bet it is snappy on the 0-60 front... It packs more power per pound than your 6.7L option and it is nice and small so you know it isn't going to break the bank on front axle loading. Not to mention higher rpms means better 0-60 times and who knows what else? I bet it could be a little pocket rocket for the Jeep Home Tuner!
Myself, it really doesn't draw my attention like a good big displacement Diesel...
Oh the sweet sweet sound of a Detroit Diesel 2-stroke Enigne. Just makes me want to move right in to some small quite neighborhood in the Northwest Pacific Region and have some fun!!!
If only it would fit!!! I think me and my toys can only serve to increase property value...
There is one difference-- I can make 4-53T perform with serious power and still be around long after the 2.2 Ecotec motor needs to be totally rebuilt.
Well you have to have to specific skill sets for many things in life. That doesn't mean you cannot acquire them to finish a project. I just happen to have an obsession with diesel since I was very young so I've leaned all I can about it. Also it will be much harder to make a 2.0L Gas engine make 1500hp on Pump Gas-- it might not even be possible. You can however, make a 4BT or 6BT diesel make those numbers on pump 40 Centane Diesel. So, that is sort of a nice thing to have going for you if you want big hp numbers...
The funny thing is if you get a few books on modifying Diesel Engines and Diesel Engine theory you can do this at home.
Last edited by KaiserBill; 04-13-2015 at 07:55 PM.
Alright I lied the real secret to amazing power is this:
I've found that once myself and my engines are under a program of Dianetics I get an easy 3500% gain in HP and torque at any RPM!!!!
IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MIND-ENGINE OPENNESS PARADIGM!
The best part about a well designed diesel engine is that you cruise at about 50%. And I really well built diesel engine with a nice heavy construction will run on the pins all day long. Heavier is better in diesel design--because it lets you run it harder for longer periods of time. This is my one complaint with engines like the Duramax or Powerstroke-- they are too light in my opinion to really get the sort of reliability you want in a highly tuned engine. My self I would stick to the Cummins engines the ones built for commercial applications mostly. Yes, they are heavier, but a little extra weight is a bonus in reliability. That is why I like the old 2-stroke Detroit Diesels so much pound for pound they are at least 1.25 to almost 2 times as heavy as say a Cat or Cummins of the same displacement. Then you have the bonus that every other stroke is a power stroke. So that is a plus. But for a Jeep application-- I think the medium duty 4BT or 6BT (maybe even the new ISB 6.7) would be really awesome to play with. Especially if you set it up for Biodiesel.
The Greener Meaner Bio-Diesel Bandit Jeep...
So what do we actually know about the 2016 Wrangler diesel powerplant? Can it be made to have significantly moar power?
The question of how much more power you can get from it is a good question. I do know this they aren't putting it into the Wrangler yet. As of now it is only available in the Grand Cherokee. I know it is a V6 3.0 liter design with about 240hp and 420ft-lbs of torque. Now, as to how much power, you can tweak out of it with after market modifications is going to depend on several factors: the construction of the block and heads, the standard compression ratio, the common rail fuel injection system and the type of engine management programs they are using.
While, the new computerized systems are great for many things they make turning up power by the home turner more complicated. But, you could probably get safely 90-105hp per liter before really having to get into the internal components of the engine. That is just a guess, but I bet it is pretty close to the safe limits of this engine. It is already running at about 80hp per liter. The biggest limiting factor in this type of engine is going to be the strength of the block and heads.
They are using a variable geometry turbo unit- I'm guessing one. I would have used twin turbos. However, if Garrett ever figures out how to make their single unit Sequential Turbo charger work this might be the perfect application for it.
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