I'm issuing a Challenge to Jeeplab!!!

[KaiserBill]

I would like to see if the Jeeplab gang of Jeeps are up to a challenge of off-roading? I would like to challenge the new trucks ie anything not made in the middle of the 20th century to a design that was already 30 years old at the time to a nice day off roading at location of their choice.

Unfortunately, it cannot be too soon. I have to put some new parts onto my baby... But before the Summer is over the Duke will have the ARB air-locking differentials, new 365/85R20 tires and and few other minor cosmetic improvements. I'm not sure if it will have the 25K winch on it yet since that is part of my bigger plan. I'll probably slap on a 10K winch with PTO setup and couple of 30K snatch blocks to go along with it.

I'm big fan of thick soupy mud. Moderate rock crawling-- the truck really doesn't have any ROPS. Water is okay not a favorite-- way too many fluids to change actually-- but I'm not totally adverse to a good day in 30 plus deep water.

Since, I'm in the New York Area-- going to PA or other places isn't exactly a problem for me. So, consider the gauntlet thrown down. Cosider the Duke getting ready to play... Let it be a rumble in the jungle Old School v. New School high tech may the best truck win!!!!!!

[KaiserBill]

Let's talk specs...

the venerable M35A2 6x6 2.5ton Cargo Truck

Engine: Continental LDT-465-1D 478CID Inline-6 turbocharged
Compression Ratio: 22:1
HP Rating: 140 to 160hp @ 2600rpm (The injector pumps where uprated to 160hp basically in the 1990's- 140hp was the original Hp rating).
Torque: 305Ft-lbs at 1400 rpm after being uprated they were more like 325ft-lbs at 1400rpm. Net between 297ft-lbs and 315ft-lbs.

Tires Stock: 9:00-20 NDT ( Bias Ply 40.70 inches in diameter) x 10 super single tires 11:00-20 NDT (Bias Ply diameter 42.00 inches) after 1993 ESP M35A3 Upgrade Michelin XL 14.5R20 (Radial construction 43 inches in diameter).

Front Axle:
Rockwell 6.72:1 single reduction gear set. Rated for 12,000lbs

Rear Axles
Rockwell 6.72:1 Double Reduction gear sets tandems rated for 24,000lbs

Transfer Case:
Rockwell fully synchronized with air-operated front axle disconnect

Hi Range 1.0:1
Low Range 1.98:1

Front Axle
Hi-Range 1.0:1
Low Range 2.137:1

Yes, the truck is designed with a different front and rear axle gear ratio in low range for the front axle. This is because the front axle is design to pull the truck out of tough conditions and is a throw back from automatic clutch unit setup that was originally installed on the M35 series trucks. It was later removed and replaced with driver controlled air-operated clutch.

Gross Vehicle Weight:

Off-road 18,000lbs
On Road 23,000lbs

The only additions:

3 x ARB Air Lockers
6 x Michelin XL 14.5R20 tires
1x 10,000Lbs Garwood Winch PTO operated.

Perhaps, some new paint.

Black Betty and the gang have more hp, torque, and technology than a 3 o 4 M35A2's combined have or ever will have. On paper there is nothing I can do to best the awesome power advantages that Black Betty and her gang have. However, call me an optimist I think "The Duke" has a lot of things going going for it and I think it would be an interesting match up to see Diesel V. Gas. Old School V. New School. Utility v. Comfort and finally won't it make a fun outing with great prospects for propaganda.

Not to mention VIKING HELMETS ARE A PLUS!

[UselessPickles]

I like twisty/hilly narrow trails in the woods, and ripping up sand dunes. I suppose you could leave your truck in the parking lot and ride along in my passenger seat :-p

[KaiserBill]

I like twisty/hilly narrow trails in the woods, and ripping up sand dunes. I suppose you could leave your truck in the parking lot and ride along in my passenger seat :-p

I usually just run the trees over. I think you're just scared that a 40 year old truck might actually be as capable if not more capable than a Jeep... I mean obviously, parking can be more problematic for me than you in a small spot.

[WhiteRavenRR]

Or in a parking garage...

[KaiserBill]

Or in a parking garage...

I live in the sticks so it doesn't matter.

[Timmy]

I usually just run the trees over. I think you're just scared that a 40 year old truck might actually be as capable if not more capable than a Jeep... I mean obviously, parking can be more problematic for me than you in a small spot.

Dude, this a forum for Jeeps. I really don't care to hear about your 40 year old military vehicle. This would be like someone coming to a M35A2 forum that you enjoyed participating in wanting to only talk about their Mustang and then issuing you a challenge of your M35A2 against their Mustang in a race across America. I mean at some point you just say "really? Did you exit at the wrong Internet off-ramp somewhere? The M35A2 forum was at exit I-DONT-CARE a few miles back, might want to pull a [wide] u-turn and head back over there."

[KaiserBill]

Timmy-- did this post have anything to do with you? I clearly made the title a challenge to Jeeplab. That would to me imply Ross Allen aka Ross of Jeeplab aka my Second Cousin! I'm also the guy that has made some of his videos...

I thought it would be a fun thing to create a challenge between old technology and new technology. I was under the crazy impression that you people were more than MALL Crawlers!

You're statement might have a point if I went to your thread whining about your silly lift kit and said dude you need truck x or whatever. Did I do that? No, I clearly made a threat about Jeeps and My Toy to have a little friendly competition build up some exposure here... and Who knows perhaps we would make a video of it for the Jeeplab site and have some fun.

That is all.... I see that is way too hard for you to comprehend.

[Timmy]

Dude, does a challenge like this even concern you???

My point exactly...

[KaiserBill]

My point exactly...

You point is that you have no point-- awesome!!! You get down with you bad yourself man.